• SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    Regardless of whose idea it was to cut the speech, the fact remains that someone made a censored draft, the organizers received it along with the full speech, and the censored version ended on the prompter without De Niro’s consent. Perhaps Apple wasn’t responsible, but then who?

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      someone made a censored draft

      I don’t think we can quite say that. Speeches usually have a time limit. It would be perfectly normal to write more than you can actually say and then start cutting back or rewording parts to make it shorter. That’s not “censorship.” If you’re cutting down an acceptance speech, the more off-topic stuff is naturally going to be looked at critically. I’d expect there to be multiple drafts with different portions cut out so it’s not so much as a “full” verses “cut” speech but which version of cuts was the final version.

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        I don’t buy it. Those decisions always include the actor for obvious reasons.

        “Oops! We aCciDeNtLy cut out the part that might cause insurrection supporters to not watch our award show! Aww shucks our mistake increased our ratings.”

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          “Oops! We aCciDeNtLy cut out the part that might cause insurrection supporters to not watch our award show! Aww shucks our mistake increased our ratings.”

          It’s not a televised. It’s an obscure awards show that almost nobody saw.

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              Apple did not produce or distribute the event. I think they’d be perfectly content with zero viewers. CODA won two Gotham Awards, including Troy Kotsur for best supporting actor. Did Apple talk about it then? No. What about when CODA won big at the Oscars? Apple dedicated two long paragraphs of the press release to talking about the other awards CODA won but the Gotham Awards are so irrelevant that they didn’t even get a single throwaway mention.

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                CODA is irrelevant here.

                Apple admitted they made a mistake with the teleprompter.

                We can only speculate why it happened.

                Considering the context of what was removed I doubt it was a coincidence.

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                  Apple admitted they made a mistake with the teleprompter. We can only speculate why it happened.

                  We don’t have any statement from Apple. “A source close to the film” said it was a mix-up with different versions of the draft and that Apple didn’t know De Niro hadn’t signed off on that one as the final version. The source anonymous to us, but not to Variety, and they judged the person credible.

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                    11 months ago

                    Apple didn’t know De Niro hadn’t signed off on that one as the final version

                    Then they are at fault for not verifying they are putting the right words on the teleprompter

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      Or a former version of his speech didnt have any politics in it because it was a draft, and he passed it to someone for review on what he had already written.

      Then that copy somehow got mistaken for a, if not the, final draft.

      I do that when writing. I ask for review on what I have written down, even knowing that I have more to add but just dont know how to start putting to words yet.

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        I don’t buy this theory as he should have easily recognized it was an earlier copy of what he wrote rather than stopping and stating that someone edited his words as if he’d never seen the speech in this form.