• kpw@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    There are lots of high-level standards for communication. You might have heard of email, its protocols are also defined by the IETF. For instant messaging it is XMPP.

    This doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. Matrix has E2EE while using a “non-standard” protocol.

    You can only encrypt messages when the recipient happens to be a Matrix user too. If they use another protocol it’s not possible. That’s why we need standards and that’s why building on existing internet standards is important as opposed to everyone cooking up their own IM protocol like Matrix does.

    Every new project that is created increases fragmentation. So does Revolt, Discord, Skype, WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, etc. These all use “non-standard” protocols.

    Yes, they all increase fragmentation as they do not interoperate with one another. A standard would solve this problem.

    Lot’s of standards are written by people who work at large corporations. Also multiple experts from multiple corporations work together. Wasn’t the original author of the XMPP protocol was hired after the fact by Cisco, precisely because he wrote XMPP and the first server implementation?

    The IETF still has a much better track record than any single corporation or VC funded start-up.

    • smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de
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      11 months ago

      Matrix and XMPP are in progress to support MLS, which is now accepted as an Internet standard for E2EE.

      So encrypted messaging between chat protocols would be possible… Someday.