• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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    I want to see your data that sports cars or “fun” cars are the driving force of accidents.

    Until we’ve established that, all of what you’re saying is completely baseless.

    From what I can see looking at data in the UK, the Toyota Prius is the most crashed car, with 1,207 crashes per 100,000 on the road. You have to go all the way down to 11th to find a sporty car - the Audi RS3.

    I’m not surprised, after all, we all know the Prius is the most savagely quick and sporty car known to man. Bugatti and Koenigsegg have yet to match it!

    E: funny enough, the least crashed cars contains the likes of the Jaguar XK, Porsche 911, Audi TT, John Cooper Works Mini, Porsche 718, Porsche Boxster, and BMW Z4. Funny that. Maybe the people who enjoy driving the most and cherish their car the most are the people who are most attentive to the whole driving process.

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        I’ve literally just given you data disproving the myth you’ve pedaled. Look at my comment again. See the edit.

        People need to stop driving their Toyota Prius and Honda Insight and get something safer, like a Porsche. 😉

        E: and I’ve looked up your speeding claim as well. At least in the UK, driving above the speed limit is a factor in 7.4% of crashes, making it the 7th most common reason to be in a crash, behind the likes of not checking mirrors, carelessness, loss of control due to slippery conditions, etc.

        Maybe it’s different where you are, but I’m getting a clear picture here: the relatively small amount of “fun” cars on the road are not the driving force of accidents, no matter how much you baselessly say they are.

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            Whoaaaa holy cherrypick! You’re seriously using crash stats from when we were in lockdown and presenting it as normal conditions?!

            I don’t really care if you own Porsche

            Ummm yes you do… you said they should be banned for being too fun.

            Of the 20 most crashed per 100,000 cars in the UK, Porsche isn’t even in the top 20, but they do have 5 cars in the bottom 20.

            So your objections are no longer about safety, if it was you’d have changed your mind after finding out some of the facts. This is about something else. You just fundamentally hate people having enjoyment with their cars? Is that it?

            The (not peer reviewed) study only seems to compare Porsche and BMW to Hyundai and Skoda, which is another red flag. Why single out those brands in particular? Nobody ever said Skoda or Hyundai were unsafe. What of the dozens of other car manufacturers, are they to be ignored because they don’t fit your narrative?

            The study itself doesn’t even talk about safety or crashes, just things like the likelihood of speeding, which could be correlated with safety, but it’s not the same thing - someone going 75mph on a motorway instead of 70mph, for example, isn’t being horrendously unsafe, even if, strictly speaking, they are breaking the law.

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                It literally is from the pandemic. And no, I’m not saying that prior to the pandemic Newton’s 2nd law of motion didn’t apply, and you know I wasn’t. Stop being purposely obtuse.

                I said quoting driving stats during a time of unprecedented and unusual driving conditions should not be touted as being reflective of all time.

                You said fun cars should be banned. You clearly do have an issue with them.

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                    They were explicitly talking about how people drove and had incidents during the lockdown period. Read what you posted.

                    The hilarity in saying I’m the one with reading comprehension issues.

                    Apologies for my late reply, I was busy driving my sports car on public roads, having a blast.