• Fitik@kbin.social
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    6 months ago

    @theacharnian
    There’s a difference between Pro-Palestnian views and Pro-Hamas views.

    Hamas isn’t even an internationally recognized government of palestine, and recognized by many countries including Canada as the terrorist organization. I still don’t understand why there is some people who refer to two interchangeably.

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      6 months ago

      For sure. I will scream fuck Hamas until my voice goes hoarse.

      The problem is the grey zone where it there is no clear line. Is using the word “genocide” crossing a line? Is using a rhetorical inversion of that line from Likud’s 1977 manifesto (“from the river to the sea”) crossing a line? Is “free Palestine” crossing a line? I don’t think so. But the article has examples like that.

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          It takes a very fearful settler mentality to interpret “will be free” as “murder the Jews”. In particular the kind of mentality that would write something like “the establishment of a “Palestinian State,” jeopardizes the security of the Jewish population” (same manifesto).

          On the other hand “between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty” is very very explicit.

          Talking points? I don’t know. When someone says who they are, believe them.

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      The extremists on both sides (very much including Hamas) can get fucked. Especially since they have effectively worked together.

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      I still don’t understand why there is some people who refer to two interchangeably.

      The same reason there are people who call anything anti-Zionist “anti-semitic”. Take that as you will, but to me it is a means to scare and silence people.