• jabjoe@feddit.uk
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      You think Trump is less pro-genocide? Until you can change the system, you end up choosing who you think is less genocidy.

      Edit: spelling

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        You misunderstand.

        If my only choices are to vote for “genocide” and “more genocide”, why shouldn’t I cast a 9mm ballot into the roof of my mouth?

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              And how does that translate into a two party voting system? One is multiple times worse than other. What can you do so neither ends up president? Nothing. You only choice is to choose the least bad.

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                I referenced Tunisia because a man committing suicide literally changed their government.

                If the only choice is “genocide lite” and “genocide deluxe” then the system must be destroyed.

                If my only choice is to vote for genocide then I want to die.

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                  Those two presidential cadets are your only choices for president. Please do not kill yourself over it. I can’t see how it would even be noticed by the process, let alone change it. Be just another tragedy for another family.

                  Again, don’t kill yourself or even talk about it.

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            So you’re saying in order to participate in the US electoral system you must make yourself responsible for some level of genocide? Contrary to lesser evil voters, you’re not responsible for other peoples votes, but you are responsible for yours. The fact that about 4 gerrymandered states determine the election is not my fault and doesn’t necessitate my participation in condoning any more genocide than I legally have to when I pay taxes.

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              In the broken systems we both have, all you can do is tactically vote based on the outcomes you want the least. While arguing for better voting systems.

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            Well it’d have to be suitably public, but a suicide of a street vendor helped kick off the Arab Spring. Mohamed Bouazizi achieved a lot.

            Besides that, if every vote I cast is a vote for genocide, then don’t I deserve to die? Have you listened to the interviews? Have you seen the bodies in the rubble? I’d rather kill myself than support that, and if everything I do supports genocide then I should kill myself. I deserve it.

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              But you’re not voting for Genocide. Noone is giving you that option. Your vote or lack thereof has no effect on whether the US supports Israel’s Genocide of the PalestiniN people. If you want to oppose the genocide, join a march. Put up posters

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                But you’re not voting for Genocide.

                If according to you, the only choices between candidates are one genocider and another genocider, that makes us complicit if we vote for either one. Which we categorically refuse. Trying to cudgel out a vote for your guy will only make me want you genocided.

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                You literally are voting for genocide. You are telling the US government “yes, more of this please”

                You could withhold your vote to put pressure on Biden’s administration. You won’t do that. Biden sees every blue-no-matter-who voter as a guaranteed vote and a reason to not change his policies in any way. They’ve literally said as much! They have said they aren’t worried about elections because Republicans are worse. This is what you’ve created, you voted for it.

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                  Nah this is what voter apathy and “my way or nothing” gets you.

                  Fascists eagerly ready to vote and do-nothings who just complain online and do absolutely 0 work to get what they want.

                  Seems like you have a really well thought out solution though. Can’t see any holes in your logic there, don’t let me stop you.

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                    Nah this is what voter apathy and “my way or nothing” gets you.

                    This is what voting for Joe Biden got us! I voted for him to stop fascism and now he’s supporting genocide. We’re complicit.

                    Do you think you’re blameless? That it’s not your fault? We chose this! It’s our fault that a genocide is happening. We voted for this. Our tax money is blowing up children as we speak. Do you feel no guilt? No shame? No responsibility?

                    We chose this. We’re cosigners on this genocide. We voted for this. It makes me want to fucking kill myself.