I didn’t used to understand foreign involvement in wars, like the whole America-Vietnam shenanigans. But I can see why after watching this Israeli Palestine Conflict since birth.

But now it’s like watching two children fighting over who’s sandcastles can be built in the sandbox. And what do we do if children can’t learn to share? You take away everything and no one is happy.

So is that what this is going to come to? Do adults need to intervene to quell the infants?

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    About 70 years ago European leaders decided the best thing to do with the Jewish people was give them their own country…

    So they picked the holy land of three main religions, kicked out everyone that had been living there for centuries and made it a religious ethnostate.

    Surprisingly the people who lived there weren’t happy to be victims of an ethnic cleansing.

    Picking virtually any other place on the globe and it probably would have worked itself out by now.

    Cynics think that was intentionally. It’s the perfect lightning rod for attacks against “the west” and the hostility leads to plenty of proxy wars while avoiding actual war in Europe again after WW2

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      It started even earlier, after the ottoman empire fell/dissolved, British and French diplomats basically drew lines on a map Scramble for Africa style and created new countries out of nothing.

      That created tons of tension already.

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        Yeah, they broke up Africe with no regard to how many distinct cultures there was.

        They looked at that giant ancient landmass and legitimately went “they’re all Black, it doesn’t matter”.

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    This is a really patronising take.

    Imagine if your country was ‘donated’ to a whole other group of people, they took over, murdered people, took your home, tortured your grandparents, you’re going to be mad. It’s not ‘childish’, it’s reality.

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      The whole Levant area has seen so many blood-soaked conquests that any claim of ‘proper’ or ‘original’ owners is wilfully and maliciously ignorant. This is also the case for pretty much every bit of solid ground. Your desire to return things to “how they were” is just you picking your fave point on a timeline of history.

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        Not what I said in the slightest. Current residents were and still are being displaced.

        Take my own house as an example, who lived here originally? Probably some celts. Who lived here before me? Fuck knows, but they left and it tranferred to me.

        If someone decided to donate my house to someone else would I be mad? Fuck yes.

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    it’s like watching two children fighting over who’s sandcastles can be built in the sandbox

    Welcome to war.

    And what do we do if children can’t learn to share? You take away everything and no one is happy.

    So is that what this is going to come to? Do adults need to intervene to quell the infants?

    That would be nice… only there are no adults.

    PS: any adults 👽 out there… whenever you’re ready, we welcome you 🛸

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      Yep. OP is wanting other children to take things away from the children. I wonder how that’d turn out. Definitely not with just more children fighting over the sandbox, right?