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    Most animals in captivity live a very short and very miserable life till or while they are harvested and then discarded. That is not something that is currently being done to humans in a nearly as bad way.

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        No, this is just reactionaries hating zoos without really thinking about what the good ones accomplish

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        Are the modern standards, that they just educate without imprisoning animals? If not, then no.

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            Personally I would rather die then be exploited and held without any regards to my well being, so I think they feel the same

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                Ah, so you are an animal? or can you talk to them? What makes you think that you know?

                Honestly, they are capable of suffering and we just accept them suffering, its at least morally wrong. But as soon as you criticize the lifestyle you get the conservative ones wanting everything to stay like it was, no surprise here

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                  It doesn’t take an evolutionary biologist to put together that animals would rather not die.

                  The particular zoo I’m thinking off has private sections of the habitats that only zookeepers can get to. Please step down of your moral high horse.

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            They don’t benefit from an environment designed to put them on display rather than designed to be correct for them either

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              Depending on the zoo, a lot function as very large animal shelters. My hometown has a really good zoo that’s run by a nonprofit organization, and they go to huge lengths to make sure the habitats for the animals fit their natural environments.

              Most of the animals there have suffered injuries, or have some sort of defect or medical issue that prevents them being able to be released. Part of the property is also a wildlife reserve.

              I get your knee jerk reaction but zoos do have a place

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                Their natural habitats don’t include having them put on display. I know people love zoos but there’s just no arguing with that. And there’s tons of research that supports that being on display causes animals anxiety. You can do wildlife preservation without exposing the animals to the public, I don’t get why that’s so controversial.

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    Wow, that must mean that we’re in captivity! /s

    Even if animals in captivity did live longer (which @WallEx@feddit.de contradicts), wouldn’t it make more sense to think it’s because of better treatment and healthcare?

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      To be fair, he’s not contradicting the intended statement. “Animals in captivity” usually refers to zoos/aquariums/etc in this context.

      They are just pointing out that animals raised for food are also “animals in captivity,” and have dramatically reduced lifespans.

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        Farm animals are not animals in captivity.

        Captivity implies being captured and being held captured.

        It is about wild animals that do live longer in a control environment albeit loosing their freedom.

        Animal farming is a different animal

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          My response was in reference to the comment the guy above linked to. The one by WallEx.

          That post was claiming animals didn’t live longer in captivity, but was taking animals raised for meat into account.