• TurboWafflz@lemmy.world
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    I don’t understand how antivaxxers manage to be so incredibly stupid, vaccines are like one of the easier medical concepts to grasp. You introduce your immune system to a danger in a safe way so it knows how to react when that danger arises naturally. Are they also anti fire drill because it’s basically the same concept?

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        The alarm sound vibrate on such a frequency, it is altering your brain patterns and harming your chakra so you are unable to go Super Sayan and fight back.

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      Are they also anti fire drill because it’s basically the same concept?

      Wake up babe, new conspiracy theory just dropped!

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      Thank you for inducing me to the concept that fire drills inoculate me against fire. I love it ❤️

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      I’ve never met anybody who enjoyed doing a fire drill, so… probably.

      Then again I’m up in Canada and for whatever reason they like doing annual drills in January 🥶

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      Remember when they came up with the concept of mRNA-vaccines and they thought it would change their DNA permanently? What we actually got was the most effective vaccines ever. Why is it that with actually good inventions like this we get skeptics, but when we get “AI” nonsense then everybody is just on board?

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      Obviously vaccines are safe and the conspiracy theorists are dumb dumbs.

      Now fire drills on the other hand…

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      Please don’t say that. People who Do Their Own Research will think you’re being seriously and do absolutely no more Research before concluding Fire Drills are sending harmful Vibrations into our Children. They’d rather send BULLETS into our Children!

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      Are they also anti fire drill because it’s basically the same concept?

      Honestly, probably lmao

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    Also Bill Gates, though: let’s prevent countries that can’t afford enough doses of the brand name vaccine from making generics!

    Not a correction, just a reminder that he’s still a billionaire who probably owns a shitload of shares in pharmaceutical companies.

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      Every single time Bill Gates gets mentioned in public conversation this needs to be the first thing said about him for the rest of his life. Given the power Bill Gates has he could have easily pushed for Covid vaccines to be made generic and saved tens of thousands? of lives.

      This isn’t some pipe dream or unrealistic 20-20 hindsight no one could have had. All he had to was decide it was important to advocate for it and use his power to make it happen. It was no guarantee, but more than anyone else on the planet he has the public, private and monetary unilateral leverage to make something like that happen.

      Given the complete lack of desperation or forced choices in Bill Gates life, the choice not to push for generics (and be a talking head on tv actively against them) can and should be seen as indiscriminate mass murder on a societal scale. In terms of world impact it obliterates everything Bill Gates built with windows, computers, all his philanthropy and involvement in medical science… ALL of it in one tidal wave of violence and brutal lack of compassion.

      Makes me angry when I hear dumb conspiracies about Bill Gates when this is aspect is sitting there right in the open and it is so much more evil than most of the conspiracies (you know what is worse than having a chip in your head?Your loved one dying from Covid).

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    Quite impressive how William Henry Gates III managed to PR himself from infamous ruthless capitalist to everyone’s favorite philanthropist. Especially considering he somehow got richer after promising to give away his money.

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      He could solve more of our problems by paying his fair share of taxes. He’s still a dickhead, just with a PR team. He is trying to do what Carnegie did

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        People who say stupid things like “soyboy” have never experienced chronic heartburn/acid reflux. I love a good steak. But if I did red meat regularly I’d burn through my esophagus. Soy is a perfectly good substitute that doesn’t agitate me and in most things you can’t tell it’s there.

        Substitute half of ground beef in any Midwestern casserole with soy crumbles and I’m 95% sure none of these meat babies would be able to tell.

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    Even having under my belt multiple biology classes, (general, human, micro, genetics, a&p) several animal sciences, and a firm understanding of vaccine science; I still couldn’t convince a guy that it’s not some conspiracy and that the risks (mainly allergic) are negligible compared the dangers and possible life-long complications of unmitigated COVID. There is just no reasoning with these people, their understanding is just borked.

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      Even wearing a mask was a controversy. I always get blank stares though when I ask them why a surgeon wears a mask and to be sure to tell their surgeon not to wear one if they have surgery.

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    Look I’m not a antivaxxer or conspiracy theorist but we need to kill the neurallink before it ever archives social acceptance.

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      Depends on the intended use.

      Human/brain interfaces have tons of potential for helping people with injuries to their central nervous system. Someone could eventually regain the ability to walk with just a few chips and electrodes.

      However if it’s like “fuck yeah I wanna mainline the Internet” then yeah, that shit sucks.

      Of course Elon owns the company, so it’s bound to be the stupid thing.

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        Yes, helping people in a medical sense that is totally acceptable. But I really don’t want them to become something like smartphone. Yeah you can live without a smartphone but realistically it is not possible.

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      Cybernetic enhancement is fine in principle, but closed-source shit from Elon Musk? Oh Hell naw!

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        I’m also against cybernetic implants which are 100% FOSS. Because once it is socially accepted there will always be megacorps trying to profit off of it and governments trying to control and surveil their citizens with it.

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      I tried to get into BCI for both personal reasons and for prosthetic reasons. I admit being able to control my computer faster, and draw/play things faster and more accurately was the goal for myself, but the greater good of improved prosthetics was always on my mind and so fascinating to follow progress on.

      When I got called for an initial interview with Neurolink, I turned it down, an entry-ish position for what was at the time my dream job, just because I heard the name Elon and would never work for a two bit hack that thinks 80 hours a week is the minimum time you should spend if you want to make any difference (paraphrased direct quote from the man who “works” 120 hours a week according to himself, and sleeps at his desk a solid chunk of that according to his employees).

      If we do ever get transhumanism, it will be too expensive to be for the greater good. Only the rich, who have proven themselves incapable of initiating positive change without financial incentive, will be able to afford it for many generations.

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      You had such a good start trying to show that he isn’t a great person even though he’s done some good things and then you had to go and be all antivaxxer.

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        All conspiracy theories start with a small truth, that’s what makes conspiracy theories feel justified and right.

        Nail on the head. Bill Gates is not a super good person and has done bad things. A logical response is to see that humans are fickle and are capable of doing good things and bad things. An illogical response to that is spiraling to say he’s injecting us with microchips and involved with some medical cabal.

        Which leans to the other truth about conspiracy theorists. They are afraid, and realizing that humans even as high up as Gates are fallible means that no one really knows what they are doing and the world is chaotic. It feels safer to say they’re all in cahoots because even if it’s really bad, at least there is someone in control.

        It’s completely normal to search for answers in the chaos, and it’s okay to feel afraid that we’re all just hurtling through space on this rock with no one in the drivers seat - but we need to be self reflective to see those are our actual emotions, and not try to cover up our emotions with theories that make us feel better.

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      All of which would still apply to Elon Musk. No way the guys open sourcing his microchips.

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    You may be surprised that there are actually many different groups of people who hold a wide variety of opinions on various issues.

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        Oh it certainly has, just not in all areas. The effectiveness of masks is proven, but the right therapy for for example my AC joint sprain is still debated frequently. Cybernetic implants like Elons chip will also lead to a massive amount of opinions from experts without a clear answer.