• VeganPizza69 Ⓥ@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    These animal farmers are making famines worse by driving up demand for cropland and input allocation towards feed crops. The more money is shoved into the animal farming industry, the more famine there will be in the world.

    edit: if you feed food to food, you’re wasting food. This isn’t some obscure fact. The free market on inputs and even on land allocates the resources to who pays more - and subsidies allow the animal industry to pay more, to buy more land, to buy more inputs.

    The future is plant-based. Anyone who doesn’t want people to die of hunger agrees with this.

    https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1713820115

    Global farmers facing fertiliser sticker shock may cut use, raising food security risks https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/global-farmers-facing-fertiliser-sticker-shock-may-cut-use-raising-food-security-2021-12-09/

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      8 months ago

      Feel free to educate me if I am wrong, but I vaguely remember reading somewhere that famine happens due to lack of logistics rather than lack of limited food in the world. I still think future is plant based for other reasons(emissions, cost, etc) but is the solution to famines producing more food or providing more logistics? Or maybe a combination of both?

      • VeganPizza69 Ⓥ@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        Currently, with the industrial fossil-fuel food regime, food insecurity (up to famine) happens:

        • due to markets pricing out poor people (doesn’t matter if there’s food around if you can’t buy it)
        • war - destroying food growing capacity, killing or scaring away the agriculture workers, stealing harvests, or just preventing harvest seasons
        • blockades, usually part of war, which is what you see in Gaza
        • local production failure due to various reasons like: weather catastrophes, drought, epidemics, floods, but also economic failures such as the fail to buy inputs by the time they’re needed, such as not being able to buy fertilizers because they got much more expensive to import (because production decreased and/or demand increased such as subsidized demand from rich countries)

        As the climate gets more chaotic, drought, weather disasters, diseases and pests are going to become major factors in this food security state. The other aspect are inputs, especially fertilizers, which depend on fossil fuels which are both running low (getting expensive) AND must be replaced with something that isn’t destroying the planet’s climate. This is called a predicament.

        In any sane society, resources that are scarce would be rationed according to need. And that means using cropland and inputs for food for humans. This is both for dealing with food insecurity and for mitigating climate heating.

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      8 months ago

      Animal farmers are much more likely to prevent this specific famine - when you’re displaced from your home, there is no chance you’ll harvest and bring your crops. There is a chance you can bring some animals with you.

      I understand your point, but there’s a time and place for that, and that is absolutely not here.

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        8 months ago

        This is the time, any later and it’s too late.

        Stop pretending you are the voice of reason when really you’re just selfish and lazy.