Edited footage of protesters chanting “gas the Jews” at a rally outside the Sydney Opera House in October was shared on social media, but NSW Police said an extensive investigation found no evidence of it happening.
Fuck Israel.
"As a result of that examination, the expert has concluded with overwhelming certainty that the phrase chanted during that protest, as recorded on the audio and visual files, was “Where’s the Jews?” he said.
“Not another phrase, as otherwise widely reported.”
When asked whether there was evidence of other antisemitic phrases being used at the rally, Lanyon said “certainly”.
“There is evidence of that, and those are offensive and completely unacceptable,” he said.
“But I think the major contention has been about the phrase that was chanted, and quite emphatically, our expert has said that it is 'Where’s the Jews?'”
Thank goodness, “where’s (sic) the Jews” instead of “gas the Jews”, just two days after the Oct 7 killings and mass rapes by Hamas, definitely makes it much better /s
mass rapes by Hamas
Was there evidence of this?
If 7/10 were killings, what has been committed by Israel since?
Was there evidence of this?
Yes(Archive). Reported by many news organizations.
The UN is currently in Israel investigating(Archive).
Israeli investigators say
There was a very quick narrative formed around the supposed rape of children which shifted the Overton window significantly for even moderates in Israel.
An investigation isn’t evidence of it. Both links are paywalled by the way.
I assume you mean the Times articles (there are 5 links in that post). Edited to add archive links to those two articles.
An investigation isn’t evidence of it.
From the large investigation article:
A two-month investigation by The Times uncovered painful new details, establishing that the attacks against women were not isolated events but part of a broader pattern of gender-based violence on Oct. 7.
Relying on video footage, photographs, GPS data from mobile phones and interviews with more than 150 people, including witnesses, medical personnel, soldiers and rape counselors, The Times identified at least seven locations where Israeli women and girls appear to have been sexually assaulted or mutilated.
Photos, videos, GPS data, witnesses, and expert testimony are evidence.
No it was fully debunked. The Intercept posted about it recently. Even NYT employees don’t believe it anymore.
https://theintercept.com/2024/01/28/new-york-times-daily-podcast-camera/
The guys who actually debunked it two months ago are not allowed to be posted here because they’re more pro Russia. All my posts about it got removed back then. They are maximum censored.
While I don’t agree with their Russia stance their Palestine research has been spot on so far. But here’s a random YouTube video https://youtu.be/paDjsRkhc28
Them pausing a podcast to investigate claims isn’t them not believing in it. The Times regularly publishes corrections and have issued one about that article regarding a person’s age. And that’s after further investigation. It’s not surprising that they didn’t air it afterward – it’s a daily podcast that discusses the most important news stories of the previous few days. I listen to that podcast and I can’t recall them ever covering something that was months old.
The ‘guys’ who “actually debunked it” – an anonymous author publishing at a propaganda outlet – are a bunch of fucking liars, which is why it was banned to begin with. The Times followed up with that family:
The Times article described the case of Gal Abdush, a mother of two who was killed along with her husband after fleeing the rave, and her family’s anguish over the uncertainty. Based on video of how her body was found, Israeli police officials said they believed she had been raped, and some members of the Abdush family said they feared the same.
“It seems to me, and I really hope I’m wrong,” said Zvika Alter, a brother-in-law, in early December, “that she was raped.”
Since the publication of the Times article, a few family members have denied or cast doubt on that possibility, including another brother-in-law who said he spoke to Ms. Abdush’s husband before he was killed. Critics have also seized on an Instagram comment by Miral Alter, Zvika’s wife and one of Ms. Abdush’s sisters, suggesting that The Times misled the family about the focus of the article.
Ms. Alter, whom The Times had not interviewed before the article was published, deleted the comment shortly after posting it. But critics circulated images of it to assert falsely that the family had renounced the article.
Last week, Ms. Alter told the Times that she was upset her post had been used to question whether Hamas sexually assaulted women and that when she made it, she had been “confused about what happened” and was trying to “protect my sister.”
After this was published, the propaganda outlet corrected “minor typographical errors” but mentioned nothing about the family calling them liars, disputing the thesis and headline of their article. It’s been five days since that story was published. They didn’t mention that she quickly deleted her post to begin with or contact her to ask why. They didn’t mention that she was upset that they had used her comment to help cover up horrific sexual violence. They are exploiting a grieving family to promote a false narrative. Those intrepid, upstanding anonymous reporters at propaganda rags!
That article is an object lesson in why you shouldn’t fish “news” out of the toilet.
Are you calling The Intercept toilet news?
Internal critics worry that the article is another “Caliphate”-level journalistic debacle “There seems to be no self-awareness at the top,” said one frustrated Times editorial staffer. “The story deserved more fact-checking and much more reporting. All basic standards applied to countless other stories.”
critics have highlighted major discrepanciesin the accounts presented in the Times, subsequent public comments from the family of a major subject of the article denouncing it, and comments from a key witness in a new tab seeming to contradict a claim attributed to him in the article.
New York Times was using ZAKA as evidence, The guys who made up the 40 beheaded babies.
You prominently feature testimony by Yossi Landau, Southern Commander of the ZAKA organization.
Were you aware, as (censored site) documented, that Landau’s previous claims of having seen beheaded babies and a fetus cut from a dead woman’s womb on October 7 have been discredited not only by the Israeli newspaper by Haaretz, but by the Biden White House, which retracted the president’s claim that he had seen photographs of beheaded babies? In fact, only one baby is recorded among those killed on October 7, which means any claim to have seen multiple dead babies must be dismissed out of hand.
Go read the original article debunking NYT. It’s not some random with wild claims. Everything is backed up with links and videos. “Screams without proof”.
More and more reporters are coming out right now backing it up.
How dare they ask why Jewish voices aren’t also against Israel’s horrific response at a rally aimed at our governments blind support for Israel and the now obvious to everyone genocide of Palestinians.
Instead there was only lies spread to say they were calling for genocide of Jewish people.
I’d feel weird for going into the streets to protest against Israel for killing terrorists who murdered other jews. A jewish person showing up at a pro Palestinian rally is like asking to be hatecrimed.
You’re grasping at straws, you clearly didn’t read the article (and don’t want to), so I quote the relevant passage for you as you seem to only have read the headline:
When asked whether there was evidence of other antisemitic phrases being used at the rally, Lanyon said “certainly”.
That + repeating “where’s the Jews” during a rally immediately 2 days after Hamas’ killings and mass rapes on October 7th is definitely indefensible and certainly is incompatible with how you want it to be interpreted.
You hoped that this article would be a gotcha moment but you seem to not have read anything beyond the headline, because the article is actually still pretty damning.
Gosh, it’s almost like one side lies constantly.
Let’s be real, both sides do. One just does it in English.
No only one side is consistently lying about everything.
The more you research the history of Palestine the clearer it becomes that the issue is always the same side that then somehow pretends to be the victim.
You do know Hamas (and most other similar organisations) claims the Holocaust never happened, right? They’re not above spreading lies they find convenient. As often happens in geopolitics, everyone sucks.
I don’t know, maybe you think Palestine has had such a rough time they’re justified, and they have had a very rough time, but it’s still lies.
Israel literally has a department called Hasbara which I think translates to "controlling the narrative’. Israel lies about shooting a journalist for half a year when it was captured on video.
I’m not saying Hamas is some kind of truth oracle. They recently made a video pretending to make snipers in Gaza which was very clearly fake. But major Palestinian events always check out from the Palesinian side and are full of lies from the israeli one. The Holocaust did not happen in Palestine and is not part of Palestinian history.
From the article I can find Hamas didn’t want to teach it to kids and instead put Palestinian history such as the Nakba in the curriculum
Palestinians heavily doubt that anything taught by israel is true because in israel textbooks the Nakba gets descibed as a voluntary migration where israeli’s honorably defended their land instead of israli’s mass executing and raping Palstinians.
This shapes the Palestinian view that (incorrectly) literally everything taught by israel is just made up lies because they lie so much
