Edit: Blocked the author’s name, because it’s not my tumblr. I didn’t expect so many people to misinterpret it and respond in this way.

Edit 2: This is not from the same author, but it’s a reply to them. I think it might help clarify the post for those that are confused:

I normally don’t worry about usernames on tumblr, but since there’ve been some really out-of-pocket misconceptions in the thread, I don’t want anyone to harass them.

  • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    Let’s say you magically dissolved Israel. What then? Do you put a different group in power with the Jews still there? Do you deport them? Do you let it be a democracy, or do you need to enforce the leadership somehow? Do you carve up the territory for other surrounding nations like the Kurds? It isn’t an easy problem by any stretch of the imagination.

    Plus, Israel won’t be dissolved, it’s very well established now. So calling for it will lead to terrorism hurting civilians and more war rather than that dissolution actually happening.

    • iain@feddit.nl
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      9 months ago

      Do you let it be a democracy

      That one, if I had to choose. But I don’t, it’s the Palestinians that get to decide their own fate. I believe it’s everyone’s right to self-determination.

      A lot of people only seem to imagine ethnostates as a solution. I invite those people to ask themselves some questions on why that is.

      • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works
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        9 months ago

        Looks like there are about 10M population of Israel vs 3M Palestinians in the West bank and 2M in Gaza. (The former number does not include the latter ones, see the wiki link) That would make them badly outnumbered. So it’d still be the Israelis who chose the fate of the Palestinians if you leave it up to a direct democratic vote of everyone in the area of what is currently Israel.

        I think a two state solution is ideal. (Though after the attacks I doubt it’s feasible) But a two state solution would likely not be able to be entirely democratic, since the majority Israelis would be able to vote for the oppressive status quo.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-report-on-international-religious-freedom/israel-west-bank-and-gaza/west-bank-and-gaza/

        • MareOfNights@discuss.tchncs.de
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          Idk if Israelis would be the majority. You would probably have all the Palestinian refugees, whose refugee status is inheritetd, come back. That would be about another 5.6 million. One state would probably lead to complete chaos. And let’s not pretend Palestinians and surrounding Arab states would be kind “overlords”. There is a reason so many Jews from Arab nations fled to Israel.