I use the apps my friends use but it gets tiring to keep up with so many.

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    chats are not e2e encrypted by default and group chats are never e2e encrypted. even whatsapp is e2ee for every chat.

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      And how does being e2ee by default guarantee you are secure? whatsapp doesnt even encrypt metadata.

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        I don’t like whatsapp either but my claim still holds. e2ee by default for all chats is arguably more privacy respecting than opt-in e2ee for 1-1 chats only. and what metadata exactly does telegram encrypt but whatsapp does not?

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          e2ee by default only for your data to be used when you back it up. Atleast there have been no data breaches reported in telegram so far

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            you can encrypt backups in whatsapp but we might agree on whatsapp and telegram being equally bad then

            no data breaches reported in telegram so far

            yes they hand it out voluntarily, search term: telegram german authorities

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              only if you are terrorist or do some CP stuff. Besides there are ton of reasons why I should use telegram. Its a lot more featureful, its easy for people to move their and its secure enough for me because I am not a terrorist and I dont sell drugs, thanks.

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        It’s fun watching people argue about things I don’t care about. Like, y’all haven’t already abandoned your sense of privacy to this world? Lol

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            It’s fun though. I’m glad they keep an eye on this stuff because I don’t and someone definitely should. But it really is just a hobby. It’s fun how serious they take it. Super serious hobby lol. Love them to death though. Greatful too!

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      Telegram is more akin to Discord with secret chats, I wouldn’t trust ZuCKs Whatsapp.