I want to preface this with I don’t actively subscribe to this way of thinking, I just want to tell you how the US leadership think:
The main reason the US supports Israel is so they have a western friendly power in the region to counter countries like Iran or Egypt which were historically soviet aligned and now have some awful dictatorial and religiously extreme governments. If they stopped supporting Israel and, say, Iran invaded, somehow wins and puts the whole of that area under there extremist rule, would that be preferable to you?
It’s not preferrable because it is hypothetical, when in reality through their support over the years they could have stopped a lot of the horrible horrible shit (known as war crimes for other regimes) but they did not.
There is a lot of space from war profiteering and genocide support to Iran land grabbing.
They couod have more actively sought a two party state and not allowed everything else Israel did.
Do you know they didn’t? Like do you think it’s possible the US has been negotiating in the background to prevent something worse from happening?
Because personally I fully believe Israel would have leveled gaza decades ago to turn into new settlements if they didn’t have to worry about losing the support of the US. So I think pretty much the only reason they havnt is because of behind the scenes negotiating of the US.
Yes I do think they didnt because they have been selling them arms for decades, sharing information to the point where israel is now probably more capable and can now do what they want.
The current president of America is, or at least was, defending their actions as defensive and calling for unconditional support as he is a “zionist”. Im not buying for a second they had anyone else’s interest at heart.
But what do you think would actually happen, if Biden just kinda snapped, and went fully against Israel, said they were commiting genocide, said the US should stop supporting them etc. Etc. What do you think would actually realistically come from that?
We know what would happen, every Muslim aligned country would wipe out Isreal and then people who are doing the genocide Joe shit would be bitching that biden isn’t helping israelis and how awful it is that innocent israeli children are dead. That’s what would happen if we actually stopped supporting Isreal, now if Joe biden said stop and said stop support the united states would continue to sell weapons and congress would continue to sell weapons because at the end of the day biden isn’t the president of Israel and global politics isn’t some easy thing to cram into a single issue
Personally I want America to fuck right off and stop propping up regimes that suit their needs to the detriment of humankind the world over.
Ypu mean ypu want to continue bitching about nonsense instead of pursue solutions.
Yes nonsense is typically the word used for supporting a genocide.
Anything else you want to trivilise? Because I cant really think of worse.
That’s not very Cash-Money of you…
I want to preface this with I don’t actively subscribe to this way of thinking, I just want to tell you how the US leadership think:
The main reason the US supports Israel is so they have a western friendly power in the region to counter countries like Iran or Egypt which were historically soviet aligned and now have some awful dictatorial and religiously extreme governments. If they stopped supporting Israel and, say, Iran invaded, somehow wins and puts the whole of that area under there extremist rule, would that be preferable to you?
It’s not preferrable because it is hypothetical, when in reality through their support over the years they could have stopped a lot of the horrible horrible shit (known as war crimes for other regimes) but they did not.
There is a lot of space from war profiteering and genocide support to Iran land grabbing.
They couod have more actively sought a two party state and not allowed everything else Israel did.
Do you know they didn’t? Like do you think it’s possible the US has been negotiating in the background to prevent something worse from happening?
Because personally I fully believe Israel would have leveled gaza decades ago to turn into new settlements if they didn’t have to worry about losing the support of the US. So I think pretty much the only reason they havnt is because of behind the scenes negotiating of the US.
Yes I do think they didnt because they have been selling them arms for decades, sharing information to the point where israel is now probably more capable and can now do what they want.
The current president of America is, or at least was, defending their actions as defensive and calling for unconditional support as he is a “zionist”. Im not buying for a second they had anyone else’s interest at heart.
Okay, so a bit tangential to out main point.
But what do you think would actually happen, if Biden just kinda snapped, and went fully against Israel, said they were commiting genocide, said the US should stop supporting them etc. Etc. What do you think would actually realistically come from that?
We know what would happen, every Muslim aligned country would wipe out Isreal and then people who are doing the genocide Joe shit would be bitching that biden isn’t helping israelis and how awful it is that innocent israeli children are dead. That’s what would happen if we actually stopped supporting Isreal, now if Joe biden said stop and said stop support the united states would continue to sell weapons and congress would continue to sell weapons because at the end of the day biden isn’t the president of Israel and global politics isn’t some easy thing to cram into a single issue