Ok, I get it: the majority of users on Lemmy are browsing by “all”, which puts a lot of content on their feeds that they are not interested in. I’ve already got in many arguments to try to explain this is kind of absurd and everyone would be better off if they went to curate the communities they are interested in. But I also understand that this feels a bit like saying “you are holding it wrong”.

But can we at least agree to a guideline to not downvote things in communities you are not an active participant, or at least a subscriber? Using downvotes to express “I don’t like this”, “I don’t care about this”, or “I disagree with this” is harmful to the overall system. It’s not just because you don’t like a particular topic that you should vote it down, because it makes it harder for the people that do care about it to find the post.

Downvotes should be used as a way for us to collective filter out “bad” content, but what constitutes “bad” content is dependent on the context and values of the community. If you are not part of the community in question, then you are just using up/down votes as a way to amplify/silence the voice of majority/minority. By downvoting in communities you don’t participate, you end up harming the potential of smaller communities to grow, and everyone’s feed gets dominated only by the popular/lowest-common-denominator type of content.

Instead of downvoting, a better set of guidelines would be:

  • If you don’t care about the post, leave it alone.
  • If you don’t want to see content from a specific community, just block it.
  • If the content is actual spam and/or not according to the rules of the community, report it.

Another thing: don’t forget that votes are public. Lemmy UI has a very handy feature for moderators that shows everyone who upvotes/downvotes any post or comment. I’m tired of posting content to different communities and be met of a pour of non-subscribers on the downvote side. Yeah, I think we should make some improvements in the software side to have a more flexible rule system for scoring downvotes, but until such a thing does not exist, I’m seriously considering creating a “Clueless Downvoters Wall of Shame” community to mention every user that I see downvoting without a strong reason for it.

  • mark@programming.devEnglish
    11·
    10 months ago

    How does getting ratio’d strengthen the OP’s argument? It just shows how controversial it is, which diminishes the support for what’s being suggested.

    • rglullis@communick.newsOPEnglish
      5·
      10 months ago

      Me: Downvoting for disagreeing and not being interested in the content is a bad behavior inherited from Reddit and the recommendation engines. It should be used in the proper context.

      Them: I disagree. Downvote should be used for disagreement. Take my downvote without any context. Goodbye.

      If you look at the people commenting, though, you will see how mostly those arguing in favor, explaining why it is bad. There is a tiny group that saying “Yeah, I downvote when I disagree, but only on <specific context>”. But the large majority of drive-by downvoters are doing just that: sticking their fingers in their ears and trying to push their opinion down.