You can’t even speak frankly here. I came to Lemmy because I was tired of being censored by Reddit, but it seems like this place is just as restrictive on speech as Reddit was.

People, if we are going to talk about systemic change for a better world, violence has to be a tool in the toolbox.

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    If you consistently run into the problem that nobody wants to hear what you’re saying, maybe it’s time to stop saying it.

    I’m not saying EVERY case, but, maybe consider it.

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      why would i change my fundamental understanding of rational morality based on popular opinion? i believe that there are more limp-wristed pacifists out there than there are warriors with a conscience, but that just means i need to amplify myself even more so people understand what’s at stake.

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        Your very use of the word limpwristed points the way to why you’re not being taken seriously. If you want to build and promote a violent a movement you need to be the change you wish to see in this world. Start a Matrix server, install Signal, develop a comms SOP and get out to protest and speak with like minded individuals. Arm yourselves, learn tactics and discuss plans in private. Join the SRA https://socialistra.org/

        There’s plenty of info on how to do this all over the onion network.

        But you sound more like an agent provocateur. There’s a long history of people like you that discredit leftist and anarchist movements. We don’t want you in public spaces shouting violent rhetoric and making us even more of a target for state violence.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur

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          hey man, i appreciate your sincere reply and i’ll definitely check out the links. I’m just a little wary of calling myself a socialist - not because i’m not a socialist (i definitely am), but just because it pigeon-holes my goals a little bit, while also alienating a lot of people who may not think of it that way. i just see a myriad of problems in which the only solution is to get rid of the conservatives blocking progress.

          also, there really are a bunch of limp-wristed pacifists out there and i don’t see why they shouldn’t be labeled as such. light a fire under their pansy asses.

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            If you’re actually curious as to where to find these communities PM me and I can send you some relevant info on how to find and engender this kind of frank and open discussion.

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        You are free to vent your opinion but other people are free to not agree. Or listen. Or care. What you going to do? Enact violence on everybody?

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        Or, you can just keep thinking that you’re the ONLY one who has ever figured out the solution. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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          see? that’s what i’m talking about! i know i’m not alone in thinking “man, all this shit would be a lot easier if there were a lot less conservatives in the world”. but where the fuck do we go to talk about that?

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            You don’t. You don’t talk about stupid shit like that.

            Read what you put in quotes, but replace Conservatives with, well, pretty much anything, and you’ll summarize the philosophy of every genocidal dictator in history.

            Here’s an easy example to get you started:

            Jews and Hitler.

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              and you’re foolish enough to be duped by goose and gander arguments, which is why lawful good people will always lose to lawful evil. sorry you don’t get it. wish i could tell you to get back with me in 10 years, but it’ll be too late by then. you’re going to see what happens when you fight fairly with sociopaths.