• Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
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    8 months ago

    Your thinking on the dirty grid might be false. If you use a heat pump you typically get more heat energy than the energy you input. A heat pump can multiply the energy you put in by a factor of 2-5. Say you burn 1 unit of gas to heat your apartment. You could let your utility burn that liter and give you 50% of its energy in electricity (assuming half is lost). Then you power a hear pump which operates at COP of 2x. You get the same amount of heat as before. Now if the heat pump operates at a higher COP, you end up saving on burned gas. It’s only worse if it operates at lower than COP or 2 under these conditions. Depending on the efficiency of the power generator and transmission, those numbers would balance differently. I don’t think they’d be worse though. 50% is a really low number.

    The reason this doesn’t break the preservation of energy principle is that heat pumps move heat instead of converting electricity into heat energy. There’s always heat in the air if the temperature is above absolute 0.

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      8 months ago

      COP goes straight to shit at -15, which happens quite often on the prairies. Which might not be a problem on the annual expense, but if you can’t keep your house from freezing up, it doesn’t matter how much or little it costs. You’ll spend way more $ and carbon fixing it afterwards.

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        8 months ago

        Anyone installing a heat pump in cold climates will often have a backup heat source. If you don’t have access to natural gas, heat pumps can save considerable amounts of energy compared to only resistive heat.