• EndlessApollo@lemmy.world
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    Sooo nothing should be done about hate speech bc you might be incorrectly defined as a bigot? That’s fucking ridiculous, how the hell can you support hateful fuckers being allowed to spew their bile? Surely it’s not because you’re a bigoted fucker who says a lot of hate speech right? That would be ridiculous

    Checked your comments just to be sure I wasn’t way off base and holy shit I wasn’t xD defending hate speech against black people, defending trump being on the ballot, saying the government should never do anything about hateful ideologies. You’re the scum of the earth, I hope your fascist ass gets put in a camp by the people you think are defending free speech

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      8 months ago

      Is this a joke? In one of your recent comments you’re using the word Zionist negatively. That would already be considered hate speech somewhere.

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        8 months ago

        “Some people incorrectly call me a bigot, therefore nothing should ever be done about bigotry ever.” Grow the fuck up

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          I’m talking about the state, not whatever it is you choose to do in your personal capacity. I don’t care what you call me. I care if the state labels me something that they can jail me for. This article is about the state labeling pro-Palestine solidarity as extremist. I can’t speak for you, but I don’t think that the state should have the right to quell that speech. If you do, then I think we have fundamentally different philosophies.

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            I’m 1000% against governments labeling criticism of Israel or support for Gaza hate speech too, but ffs the problem here isn’t that the government should just allow all hate speech all the time. If you think a republican’s right to say I’m a groomer and call for my execution/lynching is good or more important than my safety you can go fuck yourself (edited phrasing a bit)

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              Calling for violence against anyone should be illegal imo. But yes that includes things like telling people to punch nazis.

              Otherwise if they actually do convince people you’re a groomer they’ll think it’s ok to punch you too. “Group x is an exception” or “subject matter y isn’t protected” is the problem, not disallowing certain rhethorics.

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                Hey look, it’s a cishet white guy who thinks his opinion on hate speech is relevant!

                Punching Nazis will always be necessary and based, no matter what a spineless centrist on the internet has to say about it

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                  U got the white part correct, congrats.

                  And no, I just have principles. And well, the intelligence to realize that it’s not the greatest wau forward. Would still press a magic button that instantly kills all nazis, but that doesn’t exist.

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                    If your principles are that nazis should be allowed to exist peacefully and spew their hate wherever they want, your principles are shit and you should get some new ones, like actually giving a shit about your minority friends who nazis are actively trying to kill

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        using the word Zionist negatively. That would already be considered hate speech somewhere.

        Which is also bullshit. Zionism is a political ideology, not an ethnicity. In fact, failing to make that distinction is antisemitism, as is the “Israel = Jewish people in general” bullshit that genocide deniers also use to silence dissent.