I did some googling before I commented. It doesn’t have a significant caloric advantage. Triple tofu, but far less than nuts, and only a bit better than beans.
1 cup of beans can have a shit ton of salt increasing heart issues. Just be careful of how everything is prepared. No one source of food is a way to make a complete diet. For instance that 1 cup of beans can have more salt than 2 large fries from McDonald’s.
You could also put salt on beef as well, if people prepare food inappropriately that isn’t an indictment of the food itself, just the preparation of said food.
Never said it was an argument. Many people buy canned beans because they don’t want to spend hours rehydrating and cooking them. (This time can be cut down using a pressure cooker and a few other methods) That doesn’t change the fact that canned beans come with the salt and carbs.
Also since you are comparing to beef, beef has more than twice the protein per serving as common black beans. (Calories will be much higher in beef as well due to fat content). Which is why I said what I said originally, watch what you consume and how it prepared. A higher carb diet is what made America overweight to begin with, thankfully neither of these options have sugar in their raw forms
Surely it only contains what was put into it though. If the cow eats food then it must have metabolized that food. Then you eat the cow.
So basically cows are an inefficient way to turn grass into calories. But since there are other plant foods we can actually eat that isn’t much of an argument.
So the same as a butcher, or were you disillusioned to them meeting the same fate regardless
However for a cull, slitting throats would take far too long. It’s not like we need them to be halal. For cows you would likely use poison feed (asphyxiation isn’t practical due to size) and then incinerate the bodies
So you’re against it on the basis that it’s unpleasant.
That’s not a logical position that’s just an emotional one. Just because you don’t like the answer doesn’t mean that it isn’t the correct answer. Also I don’t think they need our help, they’re perfectly capable of culling the animals on their own, since they already do, The cows are food stock after all.
because meat is mostly fat and protein and is thus calorically dense and filling, and has a bunch of nutrients that are really hard to come by in plants (eg cobalamin)
if you exclude meat (as well as eggs and dairy) from your diet, you’ll absolutely need to take supplements to cover those nutrients… and they’re usually made from animal byproducts anyway
like, humans are omnivores. you’re supposed to eat plants and meat alike. cutting meat out might be a good choice morally (after all, what’s the point of eating at all if it brings you mental anguish?) but it’s not like you’re physiologically a different kind after that
upd. not gonna spam replies but i wasn’t talking about whether or not calorie density is good nowadays, i was just talking about why humans eat meat at all
b12 is readily available as a supplement and is synthesized from bacteria. Given that we already depend on convoluted processing pipelines for our meat, that shouldn’t be a big problem. Most foodstuff is already fortified with it anyway.
With obesity becoming a big problem worldwide, shifting away from caloric dense foods would seem like the thing to do.
Always seemed kinda dumb to rear animals on agriculture. Why not cut out the middleman and eat the crops directly?
Meat tastes good.
And it’s a dense source of calories.
Plus, vitamin b12
You can get b12 elsewhere.
people rally against supplements without even realizing they inject B12 into the cows, which is kind of insane.
I did some googling before I commented. It doesn’t have a significant caloric advantage. Triple tofu, but far less than nuts, and only a bit better than beans.
1 cup of beans can have a shit ton of salt increasing heart issues. Just be careful of how everything is prepared. No one source of food is a way to make a complete diet. For instance that 1 cup of beans can have more salt than 2 large fries from McDonald’s.
How is that an argument.
You could also put salt on beef as well, if people prepare food inappropriately that isn’t an indictment of the food itself, just the preparation of said food.
Never said it was an argument. Many people buy canned beans because they don’t want to spend hours rehydrating and cooking them. (This time can be cut down using a pressure cooker and a few other methods) That doesn’t change the fact that canned beans come with the salt and carbs.
Also since you are comparing to beef, beef has more than twice the protein per serving as common black beans. (Calories will be much higher in beef as well due to fat content). Which is why I said what I said originally, watch what you consume and how it prepared. A higher carb diet is what made America overweight to begin with, thankfully neither of these options have sugar in their raw forms
Surely it only contains what was put into it though. If the cow eats food then it must have metabolized that food. Then you eat the cow.
So basically cows are an inefficient way to turn grass into calories. But since there are other plant foods we can actually eat that isn’t much of an argument.
Many reasons but this could have been avoided if they culled the whole beef supply when it was first detected
genuine question, would you have signed to help with that?
Are you asking an ethical question or an employment one?
just asking if you’d volunteer to stand in blood, shit, and mud all day slashing throats. you just seem to suggest such a “solution” so readily.
So the same as a butcher, or were you disillusioned to them meeting the same fate regardless
However for a cull, slitting throats would take far too long. It’s not like we need them to be halal. For cows you would likely use poison feed (asphyxiation isn’t practical due to size) and then incinerate the bodies
For smaller animals heat suffocation has worked well, takes a few days but no extra work.
So you’re against it on the basis that it’s unpleasant.
That’s not a logical position that’s just an emotional one. Just because you don’t like the answer doesn’t mean that it isn’t the correct answer. Also I don’t think they need our help, they’re perfectly capable of culling the animals on their own, since they already do, The cows are food stock after all.
you are so right, setting up these conditions all over the planet is the only logical way to feed a population, I’ll try to be less hysterical.
How wasteful
How is that wasteful? It is not like you could sell them.
because meat is mostly fat and protein and is thus calorically dense and filling, and has a bunch of nutrients that are really hard to come by in plants (eg cobalamin)
if you exclude meat (as well as eggs and dairy) from your diet, you’ll absolutely need to take supplements to cover those nutrients… and they’re usually made from animal byproducts anyway
like, humans are omnivores. you’re supposed to eat plants and meat alike. cutting meat out might be a good choice morally (after all, what’s the point of eating at all if it brings you mental anguish?) but it’s not like you’re physiologically a different kind after that
upd. not gonna spam replies but i wasn’t talking about whether or not calorie density is good nowadays, i was just talking about why humans eat meat at all
b12 is readily available as a supplement and is synthesized from bacteria. Given that we already depend on convoluted processing pipelines for our meat, that shouldn’t be a big problem. Most foodstuff is already fortified with it anyway.
With obesity becoming a big problem worldwide, shifting away from caloric dense foods would seem like the thing to do.
Exactly what US citizens need. Calorie dense food.