• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Africa has plenty of well educated people in a variety of fields, what they don’t have is economic opportunities. Sure, Africa probably couldn’t sustain the entire project all at once, but they could very likely provide enough educated people to handle several lines.

    Africa has a brain drain problem. Anyone well off enough to get a decent education but isn’t well connected enough to get into one of the few opportunities that exist immigrates to another country. India used to be the same way, but they’re finally starting to create opportunities to keep their people in the country, and the solution wasn’t mega projects funded and completed by a foreign country, but direct investment in local jobs. That’s also how China is doing it.

    So if Africa wants long term prosperity, they don’t need a high speed rail service to be built for them, they need to build one themselves, and perhaps hire an outside firm to oversee it. If that means the can only build part of the system, that’s what they should do. It’ll take longer, but it’ll provide jobs and build expertise in the meantime and result in less total debt. They should focus on the most economically important links, and build the rest later.

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      1 year ago

      The problem is that Africa isn’t a single entity. I’m absolutely sure that across the entire continent you could build a dream team of engineers… But in each country? That’s a bit more challenging, especially when your goal is to connect the continent.

      This is even true in Europe, where each country has a different railway power standard that makes connecting their HSR systems very complicated.

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        1 year ago

        But they can all agree to outsource it? Surely it’s not that much more work to convince member countries that DIY within the continent is better than outsourcing.

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          1 year ago

          But then you get a bunch of political issues between countries. Hell, different US states can’t even agree on anything and they’re in the same country.

          Outsourcing is easier because everyone wants to get closer to China’s economic engine.

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            1 year ago

            I don’t see why they want to get closer to China though. From my perspective, China wants access to cheap natural resources, so they have no incentive to actually help Africa prosper.

            Hopefully they can form something more similar to the EU where cross-country agreements can work. Relying on China to fill in the gaps will likely just lead to more imperialism.

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                1 year ago

                Yup, so I certainly wouldn’t expect them to rush into any deals with Western countries. I’m just saying that cash mimick the structure of the EU when they start building the rail system.

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                  1 year ago

                  Oh, yeah for sure. I do imagine that this deal looks more promising to Africa (than any Western one) solely because of China’s lack of hard power in the region. China can’t project power because their navy is tailored specifically for operation in the South China Sea. China’s blue water fleet can’t do shit. China knows this and Africa knows this. China only has soft power in Africa, so there’s a strong incentive to keep everyone happy because they can’t just pull an Iraq if someone doesn’t pay.

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                    1 year ago

                    Perhaps. But has the US or anyone in Europe ever actually done that? Usually an invasion is due to terrorism, human rights violations, or violation of international law, not because of unpaid dues. If you look at pretty much every country the US has invaded, the US invested a ton into rebuilding and then left (some cases were handled better than others). I don’t think anyone in either region really wants to inherit Africa’s problems.

                    All major powers want access to natural resources, so Africa should recognize the position it’s in and be very hesitant to give up anything other than guaranteed trade agreements (i.e. allow sponsors first dibs on X% of total production for Y years or something) in exchange for assisting them in building their own infrastructure (i.e. Africans run the project, sponsors merely share knowledge).

                    So I sincerely hope the deal between the AU and China (or any other countries they’re courting) are beneficial to Africa and not just beneficial to the people in charge.