Google has agreed to wipe billions of records it collected from over 136 million Americans, users of its Chrome browser, as part of a settlement for a 2020 lawsuit.
I’m seeing a lot of people make arguments like this and I just don’t get it. Is your point that its okay for tech companies to prey on the ignorance of nontechnical users? We can’t expect everyone to know everything about every service they interact with.
I understand how the internet works but you apparently don’t understand how people work. Normal people have absolutely no concept of how the internet works, they don’t understand what data servers need about them to function, or what a packet is. They need to be explicitly told that even though they’re using a privacy mode Google is still collecting data on them, especially since they’re collecting data even if you are not going to google hosted sites.
You’re infantilizing people. Instead of treating them like toddlers, maybe we should be educating people and teaching them some critical thinking skills.
You may know how the net works but you apparently can’t read well because the last sentence of that comment is probably the most important.
You’re infantalizing people by assuming everyone who doesn’t know how the internet works lacks critical thinking skills. Do you ever interact with non nerdy people? Additionally, some people do genuinely lack the capacity to understand how systems like the internet work, are we supposed to just let them get taken advantage of or exclude them from society?
I’m ignoring your last sentence because its entirely irrelevant to the situation, the data that Google was collecting from people using incognito mode is not data that they needed to make their services work.
Because we have stopped teaching people anything in school. I learned critical thinking, civics, etc. Most people don’t. Schools just push kids through because the funding isn’t there and a lot of parents are assholes who don’t want to raise their own kids nor teach them anything. They let the schools do it and the teachers don’t have the time nor the resources to make up for shit parenting.
We need to stop infantilizing people. Yes, corporations are at fault but so are the people who fall for the bullshit. It’s not Pepsi or McDonald’s fault that people are overweight, it’s their own fault and their parents and society for not teaching them what’s what.
This shit is why I don’t interact much on social media as a whole. It’s full of jackasses who think that we should be basically living under a dictator because most people can’t tie their own shoes without help. People can handle a lot more than you think but they have to be taught how.
I say the above as someone who questions how most people are walking and breathing at the same time. Generations have let future generations down and the masses keep getting dumber because we let them.
I’m seeing a lot of people make arguments like this and I just don’t get it. Is your point that its okay for tech companies to prey on the ignorance of nontechnical users? We can’t expect everyone to know everything about every service they interact with.
You need to step back and actually read what I am saying. You need to also learn a lot more about how the internet works.
Again. Read my entire comment and then give it time to sink in.
I understand how the internet works but you apparently don’t understand how people work. Normal people have absolutely no concept of how the internet works, they don’t understand what data servers need about them to function, or what a packet is. They need to be explicitly told that even though they’re using a privacy mode Google is still collecting data on them, especially since they’re collecting data even if you are not going to google hosted sites.
You’re infantilizing people. Instead of treating them like toddlers, maybe we should be educating people and teaching them some critical thinking skills.
You may know how the net works but you apparently can’t read well because the last sentence of that comment is probably the most important.
You’re infantalizing people by assuming everyone who doesn’t know how the internet works lacks critical thinking skills. Do you ever interact with non nerdy people? Additionally, some people do genuinely lack the capacity to understand how systems like the internet work, are we supposed to just let them get taken advantage of or exclude them from society?
I’m ignoring your last sentence because its entirely irrelevant to the situation, the data that Google was collecting from people using incognito mode is not data that they needed to make their services work.
Okay, now I’m blocking you because you have no idea what words actually mean.
You have no idea which end is up, nor what you don’t actually understand.
Have a nice life now.
they are toddlers though. They don’t care how something works even if it is the backbone of their entire infra and society.
Because we have stopped teaching people anything in school. I learned critical thinking, civics, etc. Most people don’t. Schools just push kids through because the funding isn’t there and a lot of parents are assholes who don’t want to raise their own kids nor teach them anything. They let the schools do it and the teachers don’t have the time nor the resources to make up for shit parenting.
We need to stop infantilizing people. Yes, corporations are at fault but so are the people who fall for the bullshit. It’s not Pepsi or McDonald’s fault that people are overweight, it’s their own fault and their parents and society for not teaching them what’s what.
This shit is why I don’t interact much on social media as a whole. It’s full of jackasses who think that we should be basically living under a dictator because most people can’t tie their own shoes without help. People can handle a lot more than you think but they have to be taught how.
I say the above as someone who questions how most people are walking and breathing at the same time. Generations have let future generations down and the masses keep getting dumber because we let them.
Zero disagreements from me
Where did rdyoung say any of this?
What you just did was put words in his mouth;make a straw man.
And factually, browsers explain what their respective private/incognito modes do. People assumed they did something else.
Did these corporations take advantage of that? Yes.
In the end, these users are as much to blame for using a tool and assuming how it functioned.