I’ve heard this sentiment that it is immoral a lot on the internet, and I would like to hear more about it. It feels intuitively correct to me, but I would like to hear the reasoning behind it.

Examples to further the title's meaning
  • Calling someone ‘queer’ to mean they are weird, but not in a way intended as disparaging to those who are LGBT(Q+).
Not Examples

Discussion questions:

  • How does this factor into meanings of words fading away?
    • Does it still pack the same “punch” after it no longer is commonly used as a pejorative?
      • If not, at what point is it generally considered okay to use?
  • How does this differ/compare with reclamation?
Some potential reasoning that I've thought of on my own, feel free to discuss.
  • Bad actors can piggyback off of the use as a negative to help condemn the original target group.
  • It may directly harm the group, by them (also knowing the original context) coming into contact with it and causing/enabling self-hate.
    • This may apply irregardless of if they know it was intended as non-disparaging to them or not, but this is just speculation based off of my similar experiences.

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I apologize for any personal bias within this comment, I tried my best to limit it but I am fallible.

Though I would like a discussion in the comments, please refrain from insults and inflammatory statements towards your fellow lemmings, despite the hot topic. /srs

  • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠@midwest.social
    15·
    3 months ago

    I think it’s a lot different with a word like “queer” that has a preëxisting use case that never completely went away.

    Compare with people who still say “that’s retarded”. Now, they are probably not thinking about anyone with an actual mental diagnosis when they say that. But it clearly came into use as a broadening or misapplication of a term referring to a specific group.

    Now, I would say that it’s ableist, and a slur. But I know others disagree. Before continuing, may I ask if this is the kind of usage you’re asking about?

    • RobotToaster@mander.xyz
      4·
      3 months ago

      Retarded also has a pre-existing use, for “slowed down”. it’s used a lot in engineering, chemistry, even sometimes art.

      For instance the mechanism that regulates the shutter speed on a mechanical camera is called a retarder.

    • moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
      2·
      3 months ago

      Yes, it is. I actually was originally planning to use that word, but I (oblivious to the history of the word Queer) deliberately chose a different one as I knew some people dislike the term.

      Should I edit the post to change the word used?