All the historical evidence for Jesus in one room

  • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.worldOP
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    10 months ago

    If anything, what I did was a false equivalence. God, you sound like me 15 years ago, and I was a twat. You also sound like my mum and she’s an antivaxxer.

    Attack the argument and not the person.

    I assumed your position from the rest of your comments

    You know what they say about assumptions. Why not just ask me? I am right here.

    groups of experts (or a consensus of experts) are not reliable, contemporary sources as considered in the general field are unreliable unless you want to use them to further your point (tacitus or Josephus).

    Neither men were contemporary.

    So by these standards, what do we know of history? Not much, I’d argue.

    Really not my problem that historical research is difficult. Theist complain about this a lot, that it is really difficult to prove God.

    what’s the fuckin point of your post except to be an angsty lil kid? Who are you impressing here

    Attack the argument and not the person. You don’t want to give people the wrong idea.

    Now, how is that contemporary evidence of Jesus going, find it yet? Also I noticed you neglected to answer my questions in the last comment. Feel free to have a go at it again.

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      10 months ago

      Just to be clear here, you won’t even acknowledge that I made a false equivalence argument instead of a non sequitur (since you seem so singularity focused on rhetorical fallicy)?

      * < EDIT MARK

      Or that I followed your editing etiquette and you didn’t recognize it?

      Discussion is useful when one is able to listen to others and progress a line of thought. You might want to take a beat and pay attention to what a lot of other people are trying to tell you in this comment section.

      • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.worldOP
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        10 months ago

        I am not sure that you did but if it matters so much to you fine I will acknowledge that you committed one logical fallacy vs a different one.

        Right so it seems you have moved on to the part of the debate where you have given up personal attacks, and now are entering argument about argument. How I am arguing my point doesn’t suit you, instead of what my point is.

        Maybe we can steer this back a bit? Can you please provide contemporary evidence for Jesus’ existence.

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          10 months ago

          So now the argument about arguments thing is important to you? What about the last 3 hours of you whining Latin at people?

          And I gave you the place to start at the beginning. If you want to push a fringe theory, then disprove the items in that first article. If you can do it, you’d change human history forever. And I’m not being sarcastic here, you’d be a hero in the understanding of the human journey. But, until you can or are willing to do that, you’re spouting nonsense and demanding your own standards of evidence and this is a useless endeavor.

          Almost the same conversation I had with my mum about covid.

          If you’re a troll, well done. If you’re not, I hope you’re young and this is just general inexperience talking.