• InternetUser2012@midwest.social
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    7 months ago

    Cooling demand… Let’s call it what it is. People don’t like Musk since he’s a fucking piece of shit nazi, so they don’t want to buy his car.

    I’ve said it a bunch, I wanted a Tesla but I couldn’t afford it. Now that I can afford it, I will not buy a Tesla solely because of Musk.

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      I think that’s a big part of it, but even putting him and all his BS aside, they haven’t really done much innovating in years. In the mid '10s it seemed like they were making big gains in manufacturing and following up the success of the Model S with the X, Y, and 3 as well as developing the gigafactory and things like the powerwall. Since probably 2019 though, they’ve just been spinning their wheels and stagnating on things like autonomy and building the Cybertruck with no real gain to show for it.

      I imagine it won’t be long before he’s ousted though as it provides a convenient scape goat for everything along with shedding dead weight who’s main appeal previously was being outspoken online and “a disruptor” before everything turned to right wing politics.

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            7 months ago

            Not all innovation succeeds and this might not, but what other car company would even try? Innovation is about being willing to try things that are new and different, even when it fails

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              Things that don’t work are not innovation. Stainless steel that rusts is certainly not innovation.

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            Not a musk fan, but all these rust problems could have been avoided if the buyers just ponied up another $5,000 for a clear coat.

            Even though it’s a really crappy money grab, technically the rust problem isn’t tesla fault per se.

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                I mean it’s teslas fault they’re cheap skate assholes, but it’s technically your fault you didn’t buy the clear coat. It’s not like the option wasn’t there.

                I honestly figured people who bought it like that were going to apply their own finishes to it, not just let it rust. It’s not like stainless steel is actually stainless.

                I suppose the fact they bought the damn thing in the first place should have been my first clue.

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                  No it is not your fault. You should not be expected to buy a car with the expectation that it will rust immediately unless you pay thousands of dollars more. That’s essentially saying you’re going to have something broken unless you pay extra.

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          The 48V system and the binder Tesla sent to other auto manufacturers of how to finally do it is a great example. Videos I’ve seen on it made it seem really really cool, hopefully other manufacturers follow suit

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        The guy deserves all sorts of crap for the way he runs his mouth (and so do we all for putting him on that pedestal), but come on ….

        Since 2019

        • incorporates a heat pump for the first time
        • new batteries
        • gigacasting
        • new factories and huge scale up
        • pushed NACS as the new charger standard

        Sure the vehicles look similar but there’s still huge innovation …… except that Cybertruck. If ever there was a good time for them to just let something drop to obscurity, it would be when that had so much trouble and Rivian and Ford beat them to release

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          Yeah because heat pumps are new technology. It’s a reversible air conditioner is what it is.

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      If he was ousted I would buy one just to spite him.

      Nah, I wouldn’t, but I imagine a big uptick in sales after he got the boot would do detrimental harm to his ego.

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      7 months ago

      Personally I’m not buying a Tesla because I want a car that I can actually be fixed occasionally

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        There’s always a way. You might have to buy used parts, but there’s always a way. I’m not buying one because musk is a fuck.