• lud@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    I have never encountered the problem of sticky puddles.

    Is your entire argument about homeless people only about sticky puddles?

    The trash can be sorted. So why not make it a problem of the rubbish companies to properly sort the plastics and getting them recycled?

    Because sorting like that is very inefficient, expensive, imperfect.

    The attitude of wanting to just throw everything in one pile and want someone else to deal with it, is so early 20th century.

    It’s your trash. If you don’t want to bring a ton of bottles every few weeks, either go more often or drink less soda.

    I’m living in the UK for a year now and I totally love the fact that I can just buy a bottle to drink somewhere and once finished get rid of it without wasting 25p or carrying that empty bottle around all day

    People like you are the reason deposits exist at all. If everyone could be trusted to their part there would be no need for a deposit.

    • mbirth@lemmy.mbirth.uk
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      7 months ago

      Is your entire argument about homeless people only about sticky puddles?

      It’s about incentivising bad habits, e.g. homeless people sifting through rubbish bins. People leaving empty bottles out in the street where they get blown around from the wind. Or arguments like “pensioners can just go and collect empty bottles if they want more money”.

      Because sorting like that is very inefficient, expensive, imperfect.

      The attitude of wanting to just throw everything in one pile and want someone else to deal with it, is so early 20th century.

      It’s 2024. Automatic trash sorting machines are a thing - and they have a very high efficiency of up to 99.99%. Making people pay an extra deposit for plastic bottles (even just simple water) and forcing them to keep the empty bottle full of air until it is returned to a machine where it is then shredded to pieces is so late 20th century. (On a sidenote: In Germany alone, the companies producing these bottles “earn” 180M Euros every year just from bottles that got lost/weren’t brought back to a machine - or not accepted (unreadable/missing label, deformed bottle, etc.).)

      I mean, nobody is stopping you from e.g. separating used teabags into organic materials, metal staple and paper label, if you are into these kind of things. But please don’t force other people to do the same.

      People like you are the reason deposits exist at all. If everyone could be trusted to their part there would be no need for a deposit.

      In the same way I could say that people like me are the reason rubbish sorting facilities exist and people there have jobs? If everyone could be trusted to their part, there would be no need for these jobs. ¯\(ツ)