Spacious room with a single toilet and a floor to ceiling solid wood door: 🚨ILLEGAL🚨. But add a sink and anyone can poop to their heart’s content.
It seems the issue here is actually mixed gender handwashing, which is the real scourge.
Mingling mens and womens hands in the same bank of sinks is obviously going to lead to sinful behaviour.
Rapists: “Ahhh, nooooo!!! Now I can’t do my raping because of this single change 😫😫😫”
The UK is not OK
The Tories are desperately trying to find something to appeal to voters. Based off of the recent council elections, they are looking at being devastated in the next general election.
Unfortunately, when you corner a wounded animal, they tend to lash out at whatever they can, before you kill them. Unfortunately, they can still drag it out till January 2025.
I wish they would try something else than trying to ignite culture wars
Let alone the gender wars, this is stupid because it’s impractical. The only division we need is stalls vs urinals. If you already have stalls, everyone has all the privacy they need. What’s the point of gendered toilets??
Wait what if the building is a small shop that has a singular room with a toilet and sink in it? The little bookstore near my house only has 1 water closet. Those type of stores will be illegal to build from now on?
That would be a ‘universal’ toilet and thus allowed.
According to ministers, 81% agreed with the intention for separate single-sex toilet facilities in a consultation on the proposals, while 82% also agreed with the intention to provide “universal” toilets – a self-contained, and a fully enclosed toilet room with a wash hand basin for individual use – where space allows.
God these people are fucking stupid.
That’s a gender neutral bathroom.
It doesn’t mean there’s a stripper pole and a doctor handing out hormones.
The thing they’re against is communal handwashing apparently.
Well…that’s where it starts.
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First comes hand washing, next comes gender recognition, next comes TRANSVESTITE BABIES in baby carriages!!!
This honestly feels like a bit at this point
Wait, your bathrooms don’t have a doctor handing out shots hanging around in the corner?
Wait, your bathrooms don’t have stripper poles?
It’s unsanitary. Don’t want nothin spreading. My kitchens though, let’s just say my lasagna ain’t the only thing cooking in there.
What boggles me is that the latter “universal toilet” is what most conservatives ferociously battled when it is called a “gender neutral bathroom”, like disabled bathrooms and residential ones. Face=palm.
Anything less would interfere with dignity
whose dignity
We might be literally swimming in shit but at least it comes from gender-specific toilets. Hooray for the Tories.
Mumsnet strikes again.
Aaaaas a mother…
FFS those people.
Gender specific?
Who in their right mind would be able to create infinite toilets to have a specific toilet for every gender on the spectrum between feminine and masculine?
Or do they mean sex specific toilets? Which is just awful and non-enforceable.
Or do they mean sex specific toilets? Which is just awful and non-enforceable.
Oi M8 u got a penis with that?
I’m confused. Aren’t disabled toilets gender neutral?
Good point. Need more toilets with greater accessibility.
All residential bathrooms are woke
I just want an MP to stand up during the debate on this and say something to the effect of: “I have it on good authority that the honourable member from Toryshire has multiple gender neutral bathrooms in his own house! What is he hiding?”
This is absolutely bizarre. At least in NA, there’s a decent number of family/unspecified restrooms, which are also gender neutral and usually have a changing station. Some have gendered bathrooms as well. But for stuff like apartments, usually they just do a few unspecified bathrooms as it is easier to do.
This seems awfully unnecessary and expensive just to spite, what, 1% of the UK population?
It’s not to spite 1%. It’s to give two sets of 49% safe spaces from the other 49%. Recent changes in attitude haven’t made the previous need for segregation go away.
Wtf do people do in bathrooms? You go in, find a stall, do your business and then wash your hands. Why does it have to be gendered? If it’s about perverts creeping, what is this doing about same sex perverts?
Have people been unsafe in unisex bathrooms?
The only unsafe bathroom I’ve ever been in is one where the stalls had not been properly secured to the floor, and the whole thing looked like it was on the verge of collapse.
…All the unisex bathrooms either are physically walled off, or have floor to ceiling stalls with the privacy covers on all cracks. (US)
Who is being protected from what here?
Trans women (let’s be honest that’s who you’re talking about here) are 49% of the population? Wow that’s crazy, where are they I want to meet them
No.
49% (ish) non-trans women would like to have a space away from the 49% non-trans men. They probably don’t give a shit where the 1% trans-women go as they’re not the problem.
Oh sure that seems perfectly reasonable and in addition to gender neutral bathrooms separate ones are perfectly okay, as long as trans people are allowed to use whichever they’re more comfortable with and this right is legally protected from TERF attacks as it has been under the GRA and EA for a decade, but I strongly doubt this is what was meant because this whole thing as always is a dogwhistle to signal trans hate since no one is actually talking about taking away sexed bathrooms.
I can’t decide if I want to die or emigrate.
Help is coming. I have to believe it. It’s been a long long cold mean period in UK politics, and I know that Labour doesn’t look much better.
But I’ve lived in other countries and seen other endless conservative governments come to an end, kicking and lashing out just like this. And I can tell you honestly how refreshing it is to wake up and know that today, while people are unlikely to make things better any time quickly, nobody is going to make things worse.
Sending love.
I really needed to here this. Thank you.
Live. Fight. Flee if you must.
balkanize these isles
Get that big bucket wheel excavator from Germany to dig up the edge of the English Channel and sink the island into the sea.
Ally McBeal was nearly 30 years ago now and we’re still stuck on this.
When I was 8yo and saw that Ally McBeal episode, I was blown away by the idea of men and women sharing a bathroom. Then my sister looked me in the eye and said, “We share a bathroom.”
Figured it out that early.
