• WamGams@lemmy.ca
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      Wow, whitewashing Iran and Qatar’s role in Hamas’ actions. Very progressive left of you.

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          I’m interested in sticking to the facts. If you aren’t, that’s fine. I can block and move on with my day.

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            Man you are talking about whitewashing as you actively try to shift blame from the inceptor and then try and say your talking about facts.

            Fact of the matter is that palastinian terrorism is caused by Israel. Both their genocidal and apartheid ends and directly through funding of groups like Hamas early in their years to promote harsh measures to continue their genocide and apartheid ends.

            “Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu defended Israel’s regular allowing of Qatari funds to be transferred into Gaza, saying it is part of a broader strategy to keep Hamas and the Palestinian Authority separate, a source in Monday’s Likud faction meeting said,” the Post reported.

            But nah. You wanna deflect facts and focus on Qatar like everyone doesn’t already know that. This information is ment to be taken in conjunction but your so far up your own ass you see it as an argument and whitewashing.

            You want facts? Facts say Israel funded Hamas. Nurtured it and kept it on the edge of scary to propagandize it’s civilian population. Then it bit them in the ass on Oct 7th.

            If your first thought about hamas isn’t how Israel as a state purposely created and maintained it then it’s you who isn’t operating on facts.

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              Do you actually understand what you are posting yourself? Qatar funded Hamas under an agreement with Bibi which enabled Bibis strategy and Qatars own political goals. Did Israel fund Hamas in those years? No. Did Israel actively guarantee that Qatar funds Hamas? Yes.

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                Man walks in here waving his post around like I GOT HIM, I GOT HIM SO GOOD as he points out the content of the article like i don’t know what it says. Nah dude. I know what it says, I call that funding. You would too if your head was so far up your own ass.

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              If it is a fact that Israel is paying for Hamas and Iran and Qatar aren’t, it will be very easy for you to prove that.

              I will wait.

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                https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-1.7010035

                Oh nooo, did someone open their fucking mouth about shit they don’t know about and are about to get dunked on?

                “Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu defended Israel’s regular allowing of Qatari funds to be transferred into Gaza, saying it is part of a broader strategy to keep Hamas and the Palestinian Authority separate, a source in Monday’s Likud faction meeting said,” the Post reported.

                Netanyahu’s current finance minister, West Bank settler Belazel Smotrich, explained the approach to Israel’s Knesset channel in 2015: “Hamas is an asset, and (Palestinian Authority leader) Abu Mazen (Mahmoud Abbas) is a burden.”

                “Both Egypt and Qatar are angry with Hamas and planned to cut ties with them. Suddenly Netanyahu appears as the defender of Hamas,” the right-wing leader complained.

                A year later, Netanyahu was further embarrassed when photos of suitcases full of cash going to Hamas became public. Liberman finally resigned in protest over Netanyahu’s Hamas policy which, he said, marked “the first time Israel is funding terrorism against itself.”

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                  Where specifically in the article does it say that Israel is fully funding Hamas and Qatar and Iran aren’t?

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                that was really trivially easy

                Israel has allowed suitcases holding millions in Qatari cash to enter Gaza through its crossings since 2018

                I’m sure bibi did that out of the spirit of charity.

                Look, as far as I can tell, Israel created a monster, then lost control of the monster. The monster has since found other sources of support. In trying to perform ethnic cleansing and forced land transfers over the last 80ish years, they have also been monstrous. There is wicked evil on both sides of this pointless genocidal war. Stop plugging your ears to the parts that make the people you happen to already agree with look bad.