Impossible to answer as laws vary by country so what may be legal in the US may be illegal in Finland where LW is. Aside from the multi-national difficulties involved there’s also the fact that there’s been near zero court cases on it anywhere in the world (that I know of). Legal Lightening is going to strike some instance somewhere in the world eventually but no instance owner wants it to be them.
in case something goes bad it is going to be against them not this instance.
Ah, since you’re an expert in Finnish law (where LW is hosted) perhaps you could take a few minutes and give us a breakdown?
Okay done. I’ll give the instance a try and see how it goes. :)
Are you honestly saying I can steal the better part of a billion dollars and hop across the border to Mexico without worry?
In other longer articles you find out that it’s nowhere nearly a billion. The Solar Farms used to underpin the investments do exist and are productive. They have value in the hundreds of millions of pounds, but its apparently not quite enough to satisfy all of the bonds when they come do in 2025 and 2026.
This article points the finger almost exclusively at Liam Kavanagh and almost ignores Sean Clark, Thurrock’s Finance Director.
A bit of digging turned up this much longer article published a year ago and while Liam Kavanagh and his companies feature in it there’s also quite a bit more about Sean Clark’s role in all this.
For one, Hexbear made it perfectly clear they expect their users to abide by the rules of the instances they visit and not cause trouble.
The users at Hexbear made it perfectly clear in the discussions about federation that they weren’t going to respect that request and were openly encouraging each other to brigade other instances. They seem to have quite a number of participants who were really looking forward to being able to “bully the libs” and a quick scan showed several comments about sending offensive DMs to users of other instances. I was also able to find multiple HB users who openly admitted to already being banned multiple times from beehaw for trollish community breaking behavior.
The idea that BH users would have been well behaved is wishful thinking as they’ve already shown the Fediverse how they behave. Their instance Admins and Users are also not shy with how they are approaching Federation. They very specifically want the freedom to participate in other instances without those instances being able to engage them. Put together they want the freedom to “own the libs” all across the Fediverse without having those same libs show up in their carefully crafted safe space. They want to eat their cake and have it too.
To be clear I don’t agree with how Lemmy.World handled the blocking of Hexbear. I would strongly have preferred community engagement on the issue prior to the block but looking at the Troll Army being formed at HB I can’t necessarily fault the admins of LW either. Dealing with ideologically motivated extremists is a lot of work that no one wants to do.
Ah, sorry that misunderstood. Carry on!
Which is the rule of lemmy.world that protects NATO as a bastion of Western European freedom?
There isn’t one and there’s plenty of anti-NATO / anti-western / anti-capitalist sentiment here on lemmy.world.
Are political discussions beyond centrism banned on lemmy.world?
Obviously not, we’re still federated with lemmygrad and lemmy.ml.
Feel free to do what you feel is best for yourself but I think this situation with hexbear is being blown way out of proportion, mostly by people who seem to have a vested interest in that instance being able to participate here but not the other way around.
The block user button is right there, feel free to use it. I won’t block you though because I don’t melt when I meet someone with a different opinion.
why should people be prevented from questioning it?
They aren’t and they aren’t even being prevented from doing it on this very instance. There’s pleny of anti-western and anti-capitalist sentiment in here, particularly from lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml. My take away on this is that the Admins are defederating from hexbear due to their stated plan to propagandize the shit out of every instance in the fediverse. Who wants to deal with a coordinated army of tankies coming from another instance?
I’m very skeptical of their actual agenda.
You should be, it’s an instance dedicated to Tankies.
Lemmy dot world’s decision is disappointing because they seemed open and neutral politically.
Bah. There’s plenty of users in here from Lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml, and other leftists instances. It’s quite clear that the lemmy.world is pretty darn open ideologically. Hexbear is getting ban hammered because they’ve made it very clear that they aim to misbehave.
Absolutely mindblowing that this instance ever pretended it was going to play nicely with socialists.
There’s folks from lemmygrad.ml and lemmy.ml all over in here which is empirical proof that lemmy.world will “play nice” with Socialists. They’ll even play nice with Communists. What they’re objecting too is the Tankie Army assembling over at hexbear and their stated intention of propagandizing every instance in the fediverse.
If you don’t like it that’s cool. Spin up an account on another instance and go on with your day. This isn’t your instance and no one here owes you anything.
sh.it.just.works is also blocking one Commie instance and one Socialist instance.
The brave Comrades at lemmygrad.ml are blocking about as many instances as lemmy.world and lemmy.ml itself isn’t much different.
So apparently it’s just fine for Left based instances to de-federate from others but it’s a real problem when people de-federate from them? Explain that shit to me.
That’s more spin than a washing machine! I’d say they’re defederating as they don’t want to battle an Army of Tankies all day every day because it’s exhausting. It’s like trying to handle the zealot Trumpers / MAGAts. They show up literally everywhere, argue using nonsense and bullshit, and won’t stop until they are banned or get bored.
If it was truly because of “opinions you disagree with” then it would have already happened to lemmy.ml.
lmao you can absolutely be against NATO and not be hollering and hooting for Russia.
Sure, I don’t think anyone is really arguing against that. However when you’re against NATO right now when most, if not all, of its members are currently helping Ukraine against Russia and you are coming from an over-the-top Communist instance like hexbear it looks like nothing more than Tankies being Tankies.
I’m some sort of Classical / Moderate Liberal and occasionally “talk against” NATO but there’s a wide difference between that and actively pushing to see it disbanded which is tantamount to Pro-Russian propaganda…especially right now.
If you can’t handle a rule preventing you from trying to remove a bastion of Western European freedom then I guess you’ll move to a new instance.
Communists mad about Free Association? Say it ain’t so!
If they didn’t know any better because everyone else didn’t think it was a problem at the time…
I think this DOES make the Catholic Church situation different. The CC damn well did think it was a problem which is why they kept covering it up.
At least the Muslims were open about it from the beginning but you won’t find any CC literature talking about CSA and Child Marriage (at less than 10 years old) being okie-dokie.
Benjamin…get the Musket.