Promethiel

What is the problem they’re so pragmatically a part of? And how do you pin both the content creators needing to eat and the reasonable take of that commenter on the poor Marketing executives who care about neither but just want–actually what do they (end goal of marketing, literally, semantically) want, in your eyes while you’re at it? It is their (the marketing execs) side I take it you’re on, since the commenter you replied to is part of the problem and the creators do “an ad is an ad” things?

Challenge; remember capitalism exists in the world as it must as the beginning of your answer (but if you can make it vanish and it all works out by the end of the answer, that’s cool too as lots of us are looking for that one).

How is that other commenter part of the problem, actually part of the problem suspect?

There actually is an asterisk and most of us can see. Does this happen in your life often?

Thank you for stating the obvious. I fucking hate this future where even the basics of the past are starting to seem unreal. Little gray cubes with a wide bar you push and out comes cold water from a spout at the top; used to be everywhere outdoors growing up.

The fuck?

These totally normal human beings you sound like you deify…are you their psychiatrist, psychologist, therapist, counselor? Short of those professions or a former tutor who happened to treat all three…

Well, interesting thing to devote anecdotal brain power to, I’ll tell you that.

You’re like a rogue, misunderstood Guru on a journey of ‘I know leave me alone, I was describing the meta-woes of seeming to carry a dearth of knowledge, not the lack itself’.

Just pointing out from a passing ship; yeah, I see the semantic headaches and agree it’s a silly maritime tradition.

You haven’t experienced slow until you try to take Firefox through Google Cloud Console or Search Tools. 15 seconds in Chrome, somehow turns into 3 minutes in Firefox, funny how it does that.

Pedals…Holy shit, yes, foot buttons. Wow. This is not sarcasm, I forgot pedals are just foot input, not limited to a specific purpose like music making or whatever. I don’t need more hand buttons I need pedals.

“They were all in love with dyin’, They were doing it in Texas” - Butthole Surfers “Pepper”, 1996.

Your Honor, if I may Devil’s Advocate for that other poster;

To be the victim of a callous system designed with apathy at best and cruelty at worst…

and to be a profound fool who never picks up any chance to put two neurons together to a task however many chances are given…

Is not mutually exclusive. 🤣. You might even be acquainted with a few folks miraculously barely navigating the concrete jungle already.

It’s always a tragic story from some angle, but empathy doth need a break sometimes, that’s why we developed humor to uncomfortably bridge the gap.

Don’t Zoom and Drive people, court or not.

Hard to not be a cynic and assume the ADA (American Dental Association) isn’t wholly made up of “the 10th dentist” lobbying against dental progress but…

That is not the only dental care breakthrough that isn’t widely available in the US (they’re all available and priced for the ‘I don’t actually need to worry about price tags’ crowd, who can also just travel elsewhere) but which would promote healthier lives at the cost of less dentist visits. Curious how it happens.

It’s not a complex ideology, but it’s an easy panacea - like conspiracies- for the hard reality that is modern existence.

Damn but that’s some high grade poignancy early in the morning.

But it isn’t a panacea. They’re just told by the hate oil salesman it is, but they’ll choke on it same as they would have with snake oil, just taking the rest of progress with them. There has to be a way to hijack the methodology and change the message.

For some, a temporary lack of self growth; for others, certain mental illnesses. It’s as awful as it sounds if you really sit and imagine. The self awareness needed to rise above some of that? Many will live and die never having reached it.

The misguided brain can hang itself up on nearly anything, and for many it’s the semblance of validation. There is quantifiable pain behind the need to interact for some people.

I am genuinely sorry I was genuinely a reactionary idiot earlier, but thank you for teaching me a new one!

Sometimes, others share their opinions and lived-in experience not to give you insight, but because to speak is to human. Sonder on that, whatever your generation.

I am aware the oldest writing is of a merchant swindling. I am aware of the atrocities respected elders have carried out against the Village children, all villages.

I am not here to insight you; use your own faculties for that.

It sounds like what it is, Flying. Not a tasty pill to swallow but these are the dues of the division modern society has allowed.

No more Village raising the children. No more respected elders, trusted craft people, or neighborly bonds.

For the illusion of connection and its subsequent gamification and for the enrichment of those who say what we want to hear, these are the dues to be paid.

We live and die alone, bemoaning a loss of bonds that could be mended at any time; let he who is lonely lay their cynicism down first.

No, I don’t believe it’s that easy (and recognize the risks of being first) but it probably is that simple. No clue how the message is amplified back through time in a manner that gets enough likes though.

Of course not. Why would I risk limiting our market share that way?

I demonstrate synergy and the ability to run an agile ship by instead outsourcing development of an app charging 1,000,000,000 people $15 monthly for the privilege of pressing the button and posting that they weren’t it this month.

Then I press it, because we must make sure our actions align with increasing shareholder value.

“Self promotion” can and often is conversation. Ads are ever just ads. Of course rules and expectations were put in place to push for a divisive paradigm that only “the big guy” can afford to sidestep.

Can’t have advertisers’ treasured impressions diluted by discourse that happens to involve a specific person’s (often) passionate labors. Drink your multinational conglomerate verification can now.

Shhh, you’ll attract the solarpunks and then we’ll really be finding out all about the ways of low-tech and high-nature. Some of us have things to do today other than design low-watt high-flow irrigation.

The irritation, however, stays in the collective gripe-o-meter section of public consciousness because of the many ways news outlets can shape public opinion in other ways (and often do) but sure seem to bend over backwards for a certain class of criminal, more often than they sure as fuck ought to, I opine.

You can maintain someone’s presumption of innocence via non-libelous writing and still make it clear that editorial considers them a poorly regulated threat to a cohesive and social contact abiding society (or whatever it is editorial is saying and no, there never was and never has been true unbiased news; a good outlet merely attempts to expose multiple views, but humans in the editorial process can’t help but introduce slant towards one of those views however small.)

The wealth of nuance in my previous statement, for example, allows for both of these following interpretations to be attributed within a statement exposing the facts that allegedly tie Mr. Palmer, 49, of OK with the alleged criminal findings (while still avoiding a tort and leaving further reinforcing of the narrative possible through the rest of the hypothetical article) if the article writer is crafty and has a purpose:

‘Mr. Palmer from OK, 49, is an example of why, you, similar dear reader, need to please consider revisiting your stance maybe, it’s not okay to make pipe bombs to fight the unbelievers’

and

‘Mr. Palmer from OK, 49, is a demented lunatic in layman’s terms, and an example of why, you, similar dear reader (if you actually exist, please don’t), need to chill the fuck out before taking a nap and drinking a juice box because you’re a fucking child who is allowed to buy whatever you want from the hardware store, so show responsibility’

Or damn near anything else in-between. While still (the subject is our news outlet shaped strawman standing in for The Media, recall) allegedly not shaping the course of public discourse in ways that best aligns with the totally not commands and orders to not interfere with the owner(s) of the organization or their interests.

Words have power. Their selection matters.

The organizations whose existence is predicated upon this know this (the many humans within went to ‘word’ school as a rule). The politicians who are ever either condemning or praise the press know this. The billionaire owners of the media conglomerates know this.

They have a responsibility no matter how deeply a court of law can find them to be disingenuous, lying, cowards. Allegedly.