You are not reading my comments. The closures did not reduce deaths/infections by enough to justify having them, that is the argument.

I feel like you only read half my comment each time.

You will always reach a point of diminishing marginal returns with measures taken, and you have to evaluate the impact of the measure against it’s effectiveness.

The argument is that school closures likely did not contribute sufficiently to justify their extent of implementation, meaning you probably would have wanted a few more people dying to avoid the shortfalls in children’s education and socialisation that you have now. The ends, in retrospective, arguably did not justify the means.

I mean, comparing countries with it’s peers is what you should do. I could also have taken Argentina, Bulgaria, or Russia, but at the end you’ll see that Germany did fairly well.

I think the question is somewhere how much death we accept against the impact of avoiding it. In this case, as I said before, there seems increasingly the opinion that school closures as a measure did not have the impact that justified its extent of use.

Question is, what business model would you support?

Ads are the thing that pay for a lot of services most people use in daily lives. Imagine you needed a paid subscription for your email, your search engine, browser, social media account(s)…

Lemmy is fun and all, but eventually it will need to expand and pay for server costs and so on. Yes, perhaps it will be carried by enthusiastic community members, but that’s just a higher paid subscription for a few rather than many.

I agree fully with you that the level of commercialisation is beyond crazy by now, and many developments do not have the user in mind. But that’s not on the business model itself, but the companies’ decisions.

They don’t say that. They said the extent of closures was inappropriate for the severity of the pandemic and the role of schools.

And Germany did quite well during COVID, per capita deaths are far lower than, for example, in the US, UK, Italy, or France.

Not sure about other countries, but at least in Europe we had quite a few comments, including by health officials, that the school closures should not have been done and upheld to the extent that they were.

And I agree, the impact on learning and children’s mental health was not justified by the real or potential dangers of the pandemic imho

Edit: One comment from the German Health Minister here, describing prolonged school closures as a mistake

I’m sure not everyone will agree, but honestly, I kind of stopped caring too much. I’ve been using Instagram, Google, Android, Apple, and many other service providers for years and none seems to know a lot about me based on the stuff I see being advertised to me.

None of them seem to have figured out what languages I speak (I get a lot of language courses for English and German, but I’m native in both), what my education level is (I get a lot of ‘study your bachelor or master here or there or online’ despite having two master’s degrees), where I really live (lots of British stuff always, but I live out of Europe), or what my hobbies are (lots of mobile games that I wouldn’t touch with a stick).

Yeah, it seems they get the basics (I’m male, below 35, I am interested in educational stuff), but that could be anyone… And if I can use their services for tree for them to put me in a category with some 10M others, I’m kinda okay

Sollten wir denn ausführliche Berichterstattung über Malleurlauber haben (die es übrigens gibt, siehe hier)

Im Post steht es nicht, nur im Komentar von Mateoto (mit dem ich wie gesagt zustimme).

Mein erster Komentar ging darauf ein, dass OP’s Zusammenhang zwischen dem was einige Deutsche auf Malle machen und den Problemen in den deutschen Schwimmbädern (bzw. deren Darstellung in den Medien) unsinnig ist, es setzt zwei völlig unterschiedliche Themen gleich.

Ein Vergleich mit Problemen wie dem Hiztesommer oder Artensterben würde hier Sinn machen (was von Medien heruntergespielt bzw. ignoriert wird während Themen wie Migrationskriminalität gepusht werden) aber das “steht da (im Pfosten) nicht”.

Und mit mehrheitsfähigen Meinungen pass auf, mehrheitsfähig ist derzeit auch eine Koalition CDU/AFD, heißt nicht, dass es gut ist.

Ich kenne die Statistik (so im groben und ganzen), aber was hat das mit Malle zutun?

Wenn du das so interpretieren willst gerne, aber das steht nicht so da. OP hat einen Zusammenhang zwischen Malle und Schwimmbädern postiert, der so sinnlos ist.

Hätte er deiner Logik folgen wollen (bei dem ich 100% dahinter stehen würde) ginge der Komentar wahrscheinlich in die Richtung ‘wir haben Extremsommer, Artensterben, und rechte Medien interessieren sich nur für Ausländer in Schwimmbädern’.

Steht da aber nicht.

Hey OP, welcher Aussage willst du hier machen? Das die (existierenden) Probleme in Schimmbädern in Ordnung sind weil *einige Deutsche sich im Urlaub ebenfalls unakzeptabel verhalten, oder ist dein Punkt, dass deutsche Medien darüber nicht oder nur im Kontext von anderen Problemen im Ausland berichten sollte?

Edit für *einige statt ‘einzige’

I guess it raises a fundamental question: If not ads, what else would Facebook male money off? Running the operations is costly and something has to pay for it.

I am aware that Norways ban is temporary (and I’m hella glad that at least the EU/European countries stand up to big tech on data security), but just not allowing the use of user data will probably not work as a solution.

Wikipedia’s model sounds nice, but the cost of operations are by magnitudes different. I think it’s a question that will also affect other platforms (like it did affect reddit and will affect Lemmy at some point).