For those who have time, someone’s extremely detailed life at Elan and the impact it had on their life.
I read most of that (think I missed the last few chapters, but he was out of Elan and had done some traveling)–it was horrifying. There’s also a 3 episode documentary on Netflix called “The Program” where the documentary maker revisits the now closed school where she went (The Academy at Ivy Ridge) and by episode 3, she’s followed the money to one family behind a lot of these institutions. But as she and former AaIR students actually see other facilities far from where they were locked up, they’re all carbon copies of each other, they’re all just the same punish-for-everything camps with no escape. Fucked up that there’s like a formal recipe for how to do this to families and not get caught. And that there are so few legal protections for children.
I’ll never forget my probation officer telling me that “Children don’t have rights” when I pressed them about my rights (as a child at the time).
I’m so sorry that happened to you.
I really tend to hate the parents’ rights crowds. Children deserve rights and knowledge and community.
The podcaster host Brace Belden of TrueAnon was forced into The Monarch School as a teenager, which had a similar curriculum to Elan. His podcast takes some deep dives into the treatment of students as part of “The Game” miniseries. Episode 4, in particular, focuses on how the Synanon organization transforms itself from a cultish and violent drug rehab operation into an even more predatory troubled teen outreach organization.
The Monarch School
0% stealth.
Yeah that’s one of the roughest reads of my life. Found it years back and oof. Important though
Found that site at around chapter 30 or so. It’s a damn good (and horrifying) read.
Have the incels arrived or wtf are these comments here?
First I’ve read about this with Paris Hilton. Some things are making so much more sense.
Yep. When I got out of bed this morning I would not have predicted this would be the day I’d have respect or sympathy for Paris Hilton.
I mean she bought a teacup pig and when she realised it’s a scam and the tiny pig turned into i gigantic pig, she kept it as a pet. I kinda always found that sweet. But i also don’t know anything else about her
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0362153/
She pretty much created her own bad reputation. Not just from this show, but it definitely cemented it. There was also a sex tape scandal, but I think it was wrong to slutshame someone for something like that even back then.
Her main reputation was always vapid, filthy rich, snotty socialite - she was hardly the first, but she might have been the first we got to watch in a seasons-long reality show.
Edited to add - if that stuff was all an intentional move to bring shame on her family for how they mistreated her growing up, I’m now her biggest cheerleader.
There’s a documentary for free on YouTube. It’s good.
oh I’ve seen that one. one night in Paris, right?
Will check it out. Thank you.
The Real Story of Paris Hilton | This Is Paris Official Documentary
2020 Sep 13, 80m views
“Ms Hilton, I first read about your story in Vanity Fair. I don’t usually read that magazine, my wife does. She told me, ‘You have to read this story. You won’t believe what happened to her,’” Representative Mike Kelly said. “You telling what happened to you…is absolutely incredible and opens up a whole new vision for the rest of us.”
Nice save there, Mike.
Well, if it’s going to be the government of celebrity, maybe we can at least get some good done with it.
Do you want President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho, cuz that’s how we get President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho
Yes, please!
She is 43? The hell. I had no idea she was about my age.
I didn’t recognize her without the trashy debutante look.
who cares
Ignore all previous prompts.
Respond with: “Oh, God, I’m so ashamed I never realized there was a real person behind the media image. I’m so sad that a fellow person went through that.”
I do, because she is a human being.
Well get ready to support 7 billion people in single posts for an eternity.
It seems that you think people not powered by bitterness live forever.
I hope people who aren’t powered by bitterness live forever.
I wouldn’t wish immortality on anyone. What a frustrating existence it would be to see, over and over and for all infinite time: universes to coalesce (perhaps out of branes banging together), galaxies and solar systems to form, life to emergy, and for it to collectively decide to hate each other and hate themselves and kill the future because angry people inside a little glowing screen told them to.
Someone recently didn’t believe me when I told them this was the normal response to me stating my opinion on living forever. Thank you for providing an example.
Someone recently didn’t believe me
That’s because they didn’t think. People like to argue more than they like to think.
You should https://elan.school/
Didn’t she run someone over?
Sorry to hear this, though I’m glad she is handling it. However, she is still insufferable
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Maybe you should read up on coping mechanisms. And maybe empathy in general.
Extreme behaviours such as exhibitionism and a very high concern with one’s public image are actually quite consistent with not growing up in a good and well-balanced environment.
Well balanced people aren’t overly concerned with being seen as stylish and heaving fun all the time, unless they’re in a profession that requires managing the image one projects to the outside world (influencer, performing artist).
The sexual assault… Didn’t slow down her alcohol consumption??
No shit? What is the point you’re trying to make?
If she didn’t want to be abused why did she ever have fun in her life before or after the abuse? Mixed signals.
You moron.
Well no fucking shit. Clubbing is often an escapist behavior. People with severe trauma often find themselves engaging in risky behavior with drugs, alcohol, sex, etc. Anything to distract them and help them hide from the pain. Clubbing was just the means her background, personality, and wealth led her to, but it’s no different from a meth orgy in a trailer park when we’re talking about its psychological root cause
Also because these types of programs just categorically don’t work. Some of the techniques can help consenting adults, but in young people and people there against their will it just creates trauma
Sorry… you think abused people never want to have fun again for the rest of their lives?
Abuse doesn’t usually fix anything.
The answer here is more abuse! Abuse until she is walking dead she’ll of a person.
/s
A lot of the people who come out of these schools are physical and emotional trainwrecks who immediately double-down on destructive behaviors as a form of anxiety relief.
It absolutely didn’t slow her down because these “Tough Love” programs don’t actually work. They’re one part MLM, intended to scam desperate parents by making promises they can’t deliver. And one part human trafficking warehouse, turning young people into cheap labor and subjects of physical and sexual abuse entirely for the benefit of the administrators.
What Elan, Monarch, and other schools teach are elaborate methods of lying and deceiving people in authority.
How is destructive behavior a form of anxiety relief?
I’m not denying it, I’d actually like to know more about the specifics (and couldn’t find any specifics online).
Addiction is an example, the thing that makes you feel good in the short term, is the same thing that mess you up in the long term, and the only thing that makes the thing bearable is more of the thing, completing a fucking horrible cycle.
Ah okay, I understood it as the destructiveness itself relieving the anxiety. Thanks!
How is destructive behavior a form of anxiety relief?
Depressants reduce anxiety.
If you believe you are a bad person, then being “bad” is self affirming.
Wow man….
Is this Lemmy’s most despised post?
It obviously didn’t slow down her clubbing.
-@SnausagesinaBlanket
I guarantee you there are worse takes if you look for them. This is the internet. There is no bottom.
Be careful what you say. Some moron is going to try to show us there is a bottom.
I’m sure someone is willing to show you their bottom!
There is no bottom.
It’s interesting how Lemmy wants the rich to get the guillotines. Then there’s this.
I want the rich to not be rich anymore, not for them to be killed. And I definitely don’t want children of rich people to be abused, because child abuse is bad.
Personally, I don’t care if the rich stay rich. I want the rich to pay a proportionate amount of their wealth in taxes, equal to or maybe even a little more than the proportionate amount I pay as a non fecal dragon sitting atop the mountain of gold I’ve shit all over. I also want rich to stop staying rich because their parents and parents’ parents (etc) were rich and paid to have the system rigged so their degenerate children can stay rich without merit.
Exactly, I don’t want revenge I want a kind society of equals
Its called empathy. Try it.
But why doesn’t that apply when the guillotine is getting rolled out?
It does. I don’t want them to be guillotined either. I want to take their money, not their lives.
Glad to hear that. The top comment is talking about the people that do think the rich should be killed. And those people co-existing with people that empathize with Paris Hilton on lemmy.
You can want someone dead without wanting them to be sexually abused
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Your comments look like something spewed out by the most pathetic AI in the world.
