• Lynthe@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    5 months ago

    You mean the water system which has been cannibalized for years by Hamas to create mortars used to attack Israeli civilians?

    • Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      5 months ago

      Here’s video from July 2023 (months before October 7th) of Israelis sealing Palestinian wells with concrete in Hebron

      Corroborated by Snopes

      Here’s more from 2022 where they plugged wells with concrete

      Half of Gaza water sites damaged or destroyed, BBC satellite data reveals, (May 8th 2024)

      Gaza water crisis: Israeli forces destroy wells, residents face health risks and shortages (Al Jazeera, 4 days ago)

      Amnesty International with an article from 2017, describing Israel destroying wells, pump stations, water storage stations in Gaza and the West Bank

      From the above Amnesty article:

      In November 1967 the Israeli authorities issued Military Order 158, which stated that Palestinians could not construct any new water installation without first obtaining a permit from the Israeli army. Since then, the extraction of water from any new source or the development of any new water infrastructure would require permits from Israel, which are near impossible to obtain. Palestinians living under Israel’s military occupation continue to suffer the devastating consequences of this order until today. They are unable to drill new water wells, install pumps or deepen existing wells, in addition to being denied access to the Jordan River and fresh water springs. Israel even controls the collection of rain water throughout most of the West Bank, and rainwater harvesting cisterns owned by Palestinian communities are often destroyed by the Israeli army. As a result, some 180 Palestinian communities in rural areas in the occupied West Bank have no access to running water, according to OCHA. Even in towns and villages which are connected to the water network, the taps often run dry.

      • ameancow@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        5 months ago

        People like you are unsung heroes in the never ending, always attacked, struggle against ignorance and in this case, a bizarre blend of stupidity and evil to come up with lines like this.

        “Gaza is in ruins? Well did you know the palestinian children ruined their own buildings to make rocks to throw at innocent israeli pregnant mothers!”

        I cannot fathom how you can look at a slaughter currently taking place and side with the slaughterers and it’s incredibly depressing. The only glimmer of hope is that there are people willing to do the work of compiling sources and pushing back on the brain-dead monsters who want to see suffering.

        • Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          5 months ago

          Once you stand on the side of the occupying regime commiting unspeakable acts of horror, your only option is to condemn the oppressed for their suffering. It’s the only way to square the circle. It’s the only way to maintain the illusion that you’re supporting The Good Guys.

    • ameancow@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      5 months ago

      I’m not an expert on any of this, but how are you able to type a line like this:

      the water system which has been cannibalized for years by Hamas to create mortars used to attack Israeli civilians

      Without realizing how incredibly asinine it sounds? Like, have you ever been outside? Have you ever had a job that handled materials of ANY kind? Do you know how things work at all? Because this is such an obviously stupid line to use to push back on the current fact that innocent people are being killed that it displays either a fantastic level of ignorance, or a fantastic level of evil. It’s one or the other, which bad wolf inside you are you feeding? The dumb one or the evil one?

      • Lynthe@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        5 months ago

        Human ingenuity is a powerful force. Hamas has shown propaganda videos they filmed and published showing their production line using water pipes. Take a look and then I’ll happily discuss further

        • Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          5 months ago

          Got a source? Got a link? Got anything to back up your bullshit claims? Got literally anything to prove what you’re saying besides vibes? Please drop it here, please show me this video you speak of.

      • Lynthe@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        5 months ago

        If the infrastructure wasn’t intentionally sabotaged by Hamas there would be less suffering. Water infrastructure in Gaza has been suffering for years due to Hamas’ actions. Bombing provoked by October 7th and the continued holding of hostages has exacerbated the problem but let’s not pretend that municipal water “run” by a genocidal terrorist group was serving all innocent Palestinians with the water they needed prior to the war.

        • ameancow@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          5 months ago

          If the infrastructure wasn’t intentionally sabotaged by Hamas there would be less suffering.

          Sure, but if the entire city wasn’t bombed to rubble then there would be a LOT less suffering. Calling for ending the destruction of a whole community of people, including mostly civilians and children, shouldn’t get horrible people like you coming out of the woodwork to push back on calls for mercy and compassion for people who have done nothing to deserve what’s being done to them.

          People like you break my heart. I will tell my friends and family about you personally. I want you to know that. I will tell them tonight how I was just seeing a bad person online who supports the mindless murder of civilians. Some random person who had to type out their defense and justification for inflicting suffering on innocent people. You are an example so thank you, I can screen-shot this and compile this along with others who support genocide and suffering of people for their skin color and ethnicity, and maybe your little comment here will make it into a history book someday.

          What side of history do you think you’ll land on anyway? I would offer you a lot of historical examples of similar situations and the people who had takes like yours.

          • Lynthe@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            5 months ago

            I hope you and your family are well. I’m sorry that the most interesting thing you have to talk about is my comment on some meme.

      • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        edit-2
        5 months ago

        we still dont know fuck shit about nordstream, it’s theorized that it was ukraine, but we don’t exactly have super solid evidence of this. it could’ve been russia, but let’s be real. It probably wasn’t. It could’ve been china, but i doubt that they cared. Could’ve been the US, i sincerely doubt this. Could’ve been one of the european nations, or maybe just a rich billionaire or some shit, who knows.

        What we do know, is that the attack was for all four of the pipelines, and one of them failed to properly destroy the pipeline, so presumably there is some amount of forensic evidence there. And it seems like nobody really wants to talk about it for fears of starting ww3

        • Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          5 months ago

          I have no doubt that the US was behind the destruction of Nord Stream 2, Biden said as much in 2022 in the lead up to the war

          https://youtu.be/OS4O8rGRLf8?si=rP-MMg4bbvFpnqe9

          During a joint press conference with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, President Biden is asked about the Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

          “If Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, then there will no longer be a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.”

          when asked how, the president says, “I promise you, we will be able to do that.”