Veteran journalists Nicholas Gage, 84, and Nicholas Basbanes, 81, who live near each other in the same Massachusetts town, each devoted decades to reporting, writing and book authorship.

Gage poured his tragic family story and search for the truth about his mother’s death into a bestselling memoir that led John Malkovich to play him in the 1985 film “Eleni.” Basbanes transitioned his skills as a daily newspaper reporter into writing widely-read books about literary culture.

Basbanes was the first of the duo to try fiddling with AI chatbots, finding them impressive but prone to falsehoods and lack of attribution. The friends commiserated and filed their lawsuit earlier this year, seeking to represent a class of writers whose copyrighted work they allege “has been systematically pilfered by” OpenAI and its business partner Microsoft.

“It’s highway robbery,” Gage said in an interview in his office next to the 18th-century farmhouse where he lives in central Massachusetts.

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      I’ve been using AI for about 5 years. I understand fairly well what they can and can’t do. I think you are wrong. I would bet money on it. They can’t reason or plan no matter how much context or training you give them because that’s not what they do at all. They predict the next word, that’s all.

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        I would bet against this. It’s not that hard to imagine machine learning being able to digest and reproduce plot-level architecture, and then handing the wording off to an LLM…

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          I mean AI can produce a plot, but the real craft of like, the heroes journey or having a theme that comes back again and again in subplots and things like that. Humor. Irony and satire. Pacing - OMG pacing. It’s just not very good at those things.

          If you want to write a Dick and Jane book with AI writing and art, yeah probably. But something like Asimov or Heinlein (or much less well known authors who nevertheless know their craft) I think an AI would never be able to speak to the human spirit that way.

          Even at the most low-brow level, I can generate AI porn, but it’s never as good as art created by humans.

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            I wonder if the bigger concern isn’t AI being able to imitate good writers, but rather it being able to imitate poor ones.

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        Have them predict what a reasonable plan would look like. Then they can start working from that.