cross-posted from: https://linux.community/post/1144192

you might be an introvert, passionate about your job, or simply old enough to disregard friendships at work because you already have enough friends and a family.

The coworkers I like the most are the ones that come to work, don’t like drama, do their job and go home. That’s what I try to do.

However, there are always some established cliques who know how to play the unit / supervisor and get away doing much less, even feeling entitled to order you around, even though they are not your supervisor.

To people who experience this. How do you tolerate it? Even after changing jobs, this can happen at your new workplace, maybe it happens in every workplace?

  • GBU_28@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    If that matters, then it’s part of the job, not a social club

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      5 months ago

      No its not. Its what happens when you get a bunch of people in the room. The job description does not mention socializing with people.

      • GBU_28@lemm.ee
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        5 months ago

        Pick your lane dude. I’m saying the post as described focuses on the job description.

        So, should you care about the job, or the chit chat?

        If politics are required for the job, but not listed in the job description (real world) then that must be discussed. If not, focus on your work.

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          5 months ago

          what lane dude?

          So, should you care about the job, or the chit chat?

          the job, duh, but you also get skipped on promotions and other shit cause youre not involved in the chitchat. its how the politics affect your career. have you had a job before?

          If politics are required for the job, but not listed in the job description (real world) then that must be discussed. If not, focus on your work.

          which job actually lists “take part in office politics” in the job description?

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            5 months ago

            Obviously. Are you trying to obscure things?

            I’ve clearly stated that if “you” feel you need to handle the office politics to succeed, then that’s a conversation to have.

            If your job allows you to focus on your task without political concerns (like specific contract work where promotion isn’t a thing), then who cares about the social cliques?

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        5 months ago

        Sometimes it’s couched as “team player”. Some jobs I had it absolutely mattered who you were friends with.

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          5 months ago

          mattered

          But briefly, am I right? That kind of problem is best solved by changing your work address.

          • slacktoid@lemmy.ml
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            5 months ago

            Not always, it’s mostly office culture in many places. Finding one where that doesn’t happen is hard. Usually depends on the discipline the manager or boss has to not accidentally pick favorites and catch that behavior. Which doesn’t always happen. There are some people, but they are a rare breed. People always end up forming cliques, and whoever is in the clique with the boss had an advantage in the workplace.