An outbreak of listeria has U.S. health officials advising people who are pregnant, elderly or have compromised immune systems to avoid eating sliced deli meat.
Processed meats — like lunch meat, hot dogs and sausage — are generally considered unhealthy. They’re high in calories, low in protein and — in the case of mechanically separated meats — use undesirable parts of the animal as filler. Canned and packaged meats often contain nitrates or nitrites, which studies link to several cancers. Even minimally processed cold cuts include preservatives to prevent spoilage after being sliced.
“Fatty, processed luncheon meats like bologna, salami and pepperoni have large amounts of saturated fat and sodium, both of which have been linked to cancer, obesity and heart disease,” Zumpano shares. In fact, processed meats are actually considered carcinogenic.
And salt is tied to high blood pressure and cardiovascular diseases. It’s still the longest known preservative in human history. And undesirable parts of the animals? We used to use everything.
As an aside, anyone who sees boiled and baked meat as the same is like someone seeing Elvis and black Sabbath as the same. Like sure - they both have roots in the same place, but they are wildly different if you put any effort in.
There’s a point where everything will negatively affect a person. First, I was curious why salt was kept apart from other preservatives, second, I wanted to know why both of them were demonized. Most of the things you call against salt are the same concerns as the rest, and from your article, if you follow that cancer link, it just talks about neat consumption and cancer, not deli meat specifically
If you’d like me to make the argument though, ground meal of some sort is usually healthier than a blighted potato. So processed can be better than natural. Pasteurized milk is often healthier than non.
Why are you talking about things that aren’t meat and aren’t processed in the way we’re talking about meat being processed? We are specifically discussing meat. Not meal, potatoes or milk.
Okay, well if you want to pretend that processed food is just as healthy as fresh food, I’m not going to convince you otherwise.
You said food. I responded with food.
As far as meat, you said deli meat due to how processed it was with the salts. The source you quoted said meat, full stop. So deli meat is the same as normal meat according to your source. Level of processing doesn’t matter
You do know that the source didn’t compare the amount of salt in fresh vs. processed meat, right? Believe it or not, it’s far, far higher in the latter.
But do show me the data showing that 56g of fresh turkey has 500 mg of salt.
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/how-can-i-choose-a-healthier-lunch-meat
And salt is tied to high blood pressure and cardiovascular diseases. It’s still the longest known preservative in human history. And undesirable parts of the animals? We used to use everything.
As an aside, anyone who sees boiled and baked meat as the same is like someone seeing Elvis and black Sabbath as the same. Like sure - they both have roots in the same place, but they are wildly different if you put any effort in.
So you were asking what’s wrong with salt when you knew what was wrong with salt?
There’s a point where everything will negatively affect a person. First, I was curious why salt was kept apart from other preservatives, second, I wanted to know why both of them were demonized. Most of the things you call against salt are the same concerns as the rest, and from your article, if you follow that cancer link, it just talks about neat consumption and cancer, not deli meat specifically
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2121650/
Okay, well if you want to pretend that processed food is just as healthy as fresh food, I’m not going to convince you otherwise.
If you’d like me to make the argument though, ground meal of some sort is usually healthier than a blighted potato. So processed can be better than natural. Pasteurized milk is often healthier than non.
Why are you talking about things that aren’t meat and aren’t processed in the way we’re talking about meat being processed? We are specifically discussing meat. Not meal, potatoes or milk.
You said food. I responded with food.
As far as meat, you said deli meat due to how processed it was with the salts. The source you quoted said meat, full stop. So deli meat is the same as normal meat according to your source. Level of processing doesn’t matter
You do know that the source didn’t compare the amount of salt in fresh vs. processed meat, right? Believe it or not, it’s far, far higher in the latter.
But do show me the data showing that 56g of fresh turkey has 500 mg of salt.
I’ve never claimed that dude and I think you know that