The Tesla and SpaceX tycoon has claimed that his daughter’s transition had driven him towards the political right. Now three trans people tell Io Dodds how their own loved ones went down the rabbit hole
I’m confused. I don’t see any victim blaming in the article. Most of the article is lending a voice to trans/NB people to tell how hard it is, when someone in their family is bigoted and anti trans to begin with and how they, instead of trying to understand, doubled down on their hatred and bigotry and became nasty after they came out.
People do not become right wing bigots, because they have a trans child or cousin. But for some its hard to confront their own bigotry when suddenly the thing they “fear” is in their own backyard. So they react the opposite and burrow down deeper in right wing hatred.
Can we not acknowledge that this is an effect often hapening in right wing families when a family member comes out? That doesnt mean the coming out is at fault. Its bigots doubling down on their bigotry, because they can not, like normal people, reflect on their stance and admit, that maybe they were wrong.
Vivian was victimized by her father’s heartless disregard and rejection of her identity. Elon is now going around stating a narrative that her coming out to him is at least a significant contributing reason he is a fascist (“I lost my son to the woke mind virus”), a narrative that this headline plays directly into. You can take the same sequence of facts and headline it as “Musk is going public with the same bigotry that he wielded against his transgender daughter. A lot of trans people have family members like him” that doesn’t make it sound like Elon Musk would have been politely building his rockets and evs in a corner if only his daughter hadn’t come out as trans, and doesn’t make it sound like Vivian indirectly donated 10s of millions of dollars to Trump’s 2024 campaign by coming out as someone that that exact campaign wants to suppress. The headline as written is almost a threat to closeted trans people. “Yeah, your parents may be Schrodinger’s bigots right now, but come out and they will go full scorched earth to dehumanize you and you will be responsible for their shift”.
I’m pretty sure you are agreeing that that isn’t the case, and it wouldn’t surprise me if the text of the article is also aligned against that message, but the headline (probably written by an editor hungry for rage clicks) is solidly aligned to it, and should be called out for that
This is what her hot air balloon of a excuse for a farher said, not the article. Be angry and speak out against Elon Musks bigotry. Not about what you “think” an article you actually didn’t read might have said because of your interpretation of a headline.
We all should know by now that this click bait shit is all hot air most of the time, so why play into it?
I feel like a lot of people here still have to learn how to deal with todays sensationalist
internet media. Don’t believe everything
you (didn’t) read at first glance.
If you consume todays “news” only by headlines, without looking behind it and using your own common sense and critical thinking, you are bound to come out with a very distorted world view.
The headline is written as a factual statement, not a quoted opinion. It therefore endorses the idea that Musk’s daughter turned him into a fascist. Everyone knows most people stop reading after the headline, so a headline that only stops being misleading when you read the article is just misleading.
My dad is very conservative but hates Trump and his racism etc. But he’s always been anti LGBT etc cause of religion. Fast forward to now and one of his grand children is trans and the other gay. My siblings and I have taken a stance of “if you don’t like it there’s the door” and we’ve given him no option but to accept it unless he wants to die alone. It forced him to at least watch what he says and to shut the fuck up about his opinions he’s not willing to change.
I’m confused. I don’t see any victim blaming in the article. Most of the article is lending a voice to trans/NB people to tell how hard it is, when someone in their family is bigoted and anti trans to begin with and how they, instead of trying to understand, doubled down on their hatred and bigotry and became nasty after they came out.
People do not become right wing bigots, because they have a trans child or cousin. But for some its hard to confront their own bigotry when suddenly the thing they “fear” is in their own backyard. So they react the opposite and burrow down deeper in right wing hatred.
Can we not acknowledge that this is an effect often hapening in right wing families when a family member comes out? That doesnt mean the coming out is at fault. Its bigots doubling down on their bigotry, because they can not, like normal people, reflect on their stance and admit, that maybe they were wrong.
Vivian was victimized by her father’s heartless disregard and rejection of her identity. Elon is now going around stating a narrative that her coming out to him is at least a significant contributing reason he is a fascist (“I lost my son to the woke mind virus”), a narrative that this headline plays directly into. You can take the same sequence of facts and headline it as “Musk is going public with the same bigotry that he wielded against his transgender daughter. A lot of trans people have family members like him” that doesn’t make it sound like Elon Musk would have been politely building his rockets and evs in a corner if only his daughter hadn’t come out as trans, and doesn’t make it sound like Vivian indirectly donated 10s of millions of dollars to Trump’s 2024 campaign by coming out as someone that that exact campaign wants to suppress. The headline as written is almost a threat to closeted trans people. “Yeah, your parents may be Schrodinger’s bigots right now, but come out and they will go full scorched earth to dehumanize you and you will be responsible for their shift”.
I’m pretty sure you are agreeing that that isn’t the case, and it wouldn’t surprise me if the text of the article is also aligned against that message, but the headline (probably written by an editor hungry for rage clicks) is solidly aligned to it, and should be called out for that
This is what her hot air balloon of a excuse for a farher said, not the article. Be angry and speak out against Elon Musks bigotry. Not about what you “think” an article you actually didn’t read might have said because of your interpretation of a headline.
We all should know by now that this click bait shit is all hot air most of the time, so why play into it?
I feel like a lot of people here still have to learn how to deal with todays sensationalist internet media. Don’t believe everything you (didn’t) read at first glance.
If you consume todays “news” only by headlines, without looking behind it and using your own common sense and critical thinking, you are bound to come out with a very distorted world view.
People shouldn’t criticise clickbait headlines?
This kind of headline probably has a fucking body count, and you’re wringing your hands over it.
The headline is written as a factual statement, not a quoted opinion. It therefore endorses the idea that Musk’s daughter turned him into a fascist. Everyone knows most people stop reading after the headline, so a headline that only stops being misleading when you read the article is just misleading.
My dad is very conservative but hates Trump and his racism etc. But he’s always been anti LGBT etc cause of religion. Fast forward to now and one of his grand children is trans and the other gay. My siblings and I have taken a stance of “if you don’t like it there’s the door” and we’ve given him no option but to accept it unless he wants to die alone. It forced him to at least watch what he says and to shut the fuck up about his opinions he’s not willing to change.
Yeah but it’s easier to just claim outrage at the click bait title and not read the article tbf
Why get nuanced when you can get owned?