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      You don’t need to assume that I’m talking about some group. I’m saying that, in general, Americans need to get it out of their heads that there is only one savior like you see in the movies.

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        There is only one viable candidate running against Trump: the Democratic nominee. That was going to be Biden and now it’s going to be Harris, but it’s still only one person [at a time].

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          Sure, knock yourselves out with your self-fulfilling prophecies. Even after you were shown that you can absolutely change things around for the better, you still cling to those ideas.

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            It’s a consequence of first-past-the-post voting, not a “prophecy.” It will not change, ever until after the voting system does. Learn some goddamn game theory!

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              I’m not talking about literal prophecies, ffs. And yet here you are, perpetuating exactly what I’m criticizing. Change that chip, change that mindset. Change happens within you first.

              Learn some goddamn game theory!

              How about you learn some manners first?

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                The bottom line is that a third-party has absolutely zero chance of winning the 2024 US Presidential election, and any assertion otherwise is at best utterly delusional, and at worst, a pro-fascist disinformation tactic.

                The time for changing the system so it’s possible for third-party candidates to win is not during the election, for fuck’s sake!

                How about you learn some manners first?

                You’re resorting to tone arguments because you know you lost.

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                  And yet I’m not talking about third party candidates or what the DNC is doing. You’re going there because you think that’s what I’m talking about because it’s low-hanging fruit. You’re literally having an entirely different conversation and strutting around like you won something because I’m telling you to stop being condescending.

                  You’re resorting to tone arguments because you know you lost.

                  And here is even more condescension. I don’t need this type of shit. You either talk like an adult and have respect or we’re not talking. But go ahead, take another victory lap because you want some easy win for an argument we’re not having that you’ve set up for yourself in a parallel universe. Congrats. You’re such a good debater holy shit.

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                    There are only three possibilities for what you could be talking about:

                    1. Third-party candidates (not viable)
                    2. The Democrats picking somebody other than Biden Harris (not likely this late in the game, especially a second time)
                    3. Something entirely irrelevant to the election at hand.

                    You say you’re taking about #3, which already isn’t great due to the whole “being irrelevant” thing, but what’s worse is that you’re bringing it up as if it’s a rebuttal to the “our only choice” people when the “our only choice” people are clearly talking about #1 or #2!