AIPAC money and geopolitical nonsense has the US actively assisting in a genocide as the media works overtime to earn their payday, spinning the bejesus out of the situation, doing massive political damage - because the US naturally wants Palestine genocided ^because ^^I ^^^dunno… ^^^^reasons.
They’re coming from the weirdly common position of America as an evil empire they can oppose in all circumstances. Sure, one COULD actually examine the complex interplay of diplomacy and interests on the international scale, but who has time for that IR bullshit when you can just say “The Amerikkkans run the world on their puppetmaster strings!” and in the same breath mock the idea of Israeli influence as conspiratorial antisemitism.
I’m not sure if I’m misunderstanding you or you’re misunderstanding me.
I’m agreeing with you that their position that Israeli influence is negligible is incorrect, and saying in addition that their attempted justifications by conflating antisemitism and anti-Israeli sentiment and pushing an idea of America as an all-powerful entity on the world stage with very basic motivations does not actually help their point.
You think a western aligned colony of Europeans and Americans sitting in the middle of an otherwise hostile part of the world needs any more grease? You ain’t thinking like a state. You ain’t playing that mental game of interests and geopolitical boardgame shenanigans. You’re thinking that there’s no way America would do this on its own, that it has to be coaxed into supporting a genocide. Nah dude. Here’s the simple breakdown. Israel will do what we say when we need to get something done in the region. After that, anything goes. This is basic American foreign policy. We supported mass killings and genocides our whole existence because the killers were technically our friends. Why would this time be any different? Or what next, you going to say Nicaragua owned American politics? How bout south Korea? Why would isreal be different.
You’re conflating actively supporting the genocide of Palestine (something the US doesn’t benefit from outside Israel) and maintaining a strategic partner/toehold in the region - even if they’re an ethnostate (something the US does benefit from).
Oh my bad, you want a dissertation on the historical, economic and cultural reasons why a state would support a colony made of its own people? Cool, I’ll get right to work on that.
I’m sorry? Where do you think the population of Israeli colonists came from? The sky? Just fell right from heaven itself? Americans and Europeans for God’s sake. Look man. I ain’t gonna tit for tat you all day for every silly complaint you have for me.
AIPAC money and geopolitical nonsense has the US actively assisting in a genocide as the media works overtime to earn their payday, spinning the bejesus out of the situation, doing massive political damage - because the US naturally wants Palestine genocided ^because ^^I ^^^dunno… ^^^^reasons.
…but Israel have no influence?
They’re coming from the weirdly common position of America as an evil empire they can oppose in all circumstances. Sure, one COULD actually examine the complex interplay of diplomacy and interests on the international scale, but who has time for that IR bullshit when you can just say “The Amerikkkans run the world on their puppetmaster strings!” and in the same breath mock the idea of Israeli influence as conspiratorial antisemitism.
Are you OK, my guy?
The recent Israeli influence on the US is undeniable. The rest is a strawman that’s the product of an unhinged mind.
If you’ve got a point to make, be my guest… but this ain’t it.
I’m not sure if I’m misunderstanding you or you’re misunderstanding me.
I’m agreeing with you that their position that Israeli influence is negligible is incorrect, and saying in addition that their attempted justifications by conflating antisemitism and anti-Israeli sentiment and pushing an idea of America as an all-powerful entity on the world stage with very basic motivations does not actually help their point.
In that case, I guess one of us had a stroke… Though I can’t rightly say who.
Edit: After re-reading, it was definitely me - my mistake.
No worries, it happens!
You think a western aligned colony of Europeans and Americans sitting in the middle of an otherwise hostile part of the world needs any more grease? You ain’t thinking like a state. You ain’t playing that mental game of interests and geopolitical boardgame shenanigans. You’re thinking that there’s no way America would do this on its own, that it has to be coaxed into supporting a genocide. Nah dude. Here’s the simple breakdown. Israel will do what we say when we need to get something done in the region. After that, anything goes. This is basic American foreign policy. We supported mass killings and genocides our whole existence because the killers were technically our friends. Why would this time be any different? Or what next, you going to say Nicaragua owned American politics? How bout south Korea? Why would isreal be different.
You’re conflating actively supporting the genocide of Palestine (something the US doesn’t benefit from outside Israel) and maintaining a strategic partner/toehold in the region - even if they’re an ethnostate (something the US does benefit from).
That’s incredibly ironic considering your Risk-level analysis of IR.
Oh my bad, you want a dissertation on the historical, economic and cultural reasons why a state would support a colony made of its own people? Cool, I’ll get right to work on that.
“A colony made of its own people”
Holy shit.
I’m sorry? Where do you think the population of Israeli colonists came from? The sky? Just fell right from heaven itself? Americans and Europeans for God’s sake. Look man. I ain’t gonna tit for tat you all day for every silly complaint you have for me.
I’m sorry that you don’t understand the history or demographics of Israel.
Breaking news update. Eastern Europe no longer considered European. Slavs heartbroken. More news at 6.
You really don’t realize that most Israelis aren’t Ashkenazi, huh. Really just talking about Israel without knowing the most basic shite. Checks out.