In policy proposals posted to her website, Harris called for an increase in the overall minimum wage and for the end of the subminimum wage for tipped workers.

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    2 months ago

    It does feel like we should be encouraging the end of tipping, not asking it to stick around forever.

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      Removing the minimum wage exception to tips does help with that. Part of the reason why tips are inventived

      Plus taxes on tips as they exist already has quite a number of assumptions that tipping will always exist. For instance, assumptions of a minimum 8% tip rate for reporting. Which will be withheld from pay from at least that assumption (which you can get back if you earn less by filling)

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        Wouldn’t the elimination of taxes on tips entrench that non-taxable income as something servers would die before ever surrendering? Treating it as income means that whether that money is coming from hourly vs. tips is irrelevant and, at the end of the day, hourly compensation is always more reliable if all else is equal.

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          This was my concern, but if y’all think servers will give up their tax free tips… sure…

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          It would be preferrable to change the tax code on it differently, yes, but unfortunately in elections that going to be difficult to explain to people rather than the much simpler “no taxes on tips”

          Mind you that trump has the same plan on tips tax removal here but without any of the minimum wage change stuff

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          You think the tax coming off their tips is enough to make servers indifferent to them?

          If they are guaranteed minimum wage then at least I can feel like they aren’t going to starve if I don’t tip the ever increasing suggested tip %.

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            A server can easily work 4-5 tables an hour. Assuming average bill of $50 per table, and average of 10% tips, that’s $20-25 per hour. That average is most likely higher because of people like you who feel guilty and use the suggested tips lol.

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      I agree, and we’d have to do it carefully so tipped workers continue making roughly the same as they do now.

      Where I live a handful of trendy restaurants announced opened as no-tipping restaurants. They would add a 20% gratuity to every bill and claim it was used “to support a living wage and benefits” to the staff. Usually it was just sucked up into the revenue pile and used however the owner wanted.

      If restaurants dropped tipping, raised their prices by 20%, and paid their staff 20% more, I would be okay with that. In the European countries I’ve visited, it seems to work just fine and food is still cheaper than where I live.