• Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    edit-2
    8 days ago

    I’ll take you at your word, which is trying, but even if true I prefaced my statement with original. This means you’re part of the plan, and you would have to be. Though you may not identify as accelerationist your existence is spurred on and enunicated by a foreign effort to defeat America by turning it on itself.

    Edit: My bad

    • knightly the Sneptaur@pawb.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      8 days ago

      Again, I’m not an accelerationist. I’m a “Stop doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result”-ist.

      And don’t tell me you’ll take me at my word and then immediately do the opposite. It makes me suspect that you are the thing you accuse me of being.

      • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        8 days ago

        You call yourself what ever you like. I’ll refer to you as, useful idiot.

        Edit: If I were a foreign actor I’m either very incompetent or am a genius for egging on you doubling down.

      • LengAwaits@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        7 days ago

        The only way you can look at the world right now and say “we’re doing the same thing over and over” is if you choose to ignore unfathomable swaths of nuance in some reductionist attempt to protect your own sense of self-righteousness.

        • knightly the Sneptaur@pawb.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          7 days ago

          Electorally, I disagree. The Democrats have been triangulating towards the “center” since before I was born while the Republicans keep tacking right. When Trump loses and the post-election, post-failed-coup-part-deux infighting tears the Republican party apart, the Democrats will be the new right-wing.

          • LengAwaits@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            7 days ago

            I don’t really disagree with this, and in fact it sounds optimistic to me, provided you’re asserting that a new party will be born from the broken duopoly that your prediction will cause. Which you may not be. I’m not trying to put words in your mouth.

            Edit: On second thought, I do somewhat disagree, as watching the democratic party flirt with and ultimately push back against a Candidate Sanders in 2016 definitely seems like a deviation from the plot-line you’ve presented. I can envision a future in which the Dem party is captured by further left factions as young people grow up and become more and more engaged with electoralism.

            • knightly the Sneptaur@pawb.social
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              7 days ago

              provided you’re asserting that a new party will be born from the broken duopoly that your prediction will cause.

              That is indeed the case. The new left will come out of the growing union movement, the existing third-parties aren’t capable of filling that niche.

              I do somewhat disagree, as watching the democratic party flirt with and ultimately push back against a Candidate Sanders in 2016 definitely seems like a deviation from the plot-line you’ve presented.

              Nah, Bernie Sanders was the last off-ramp away from this future. There was a chance the DNC could have embraced a left turn, but when instead they started openly conspiring against Bernie in 2015, they locked us into the path they put us on now. They’d ratfuck him in the primary, Trump was going to win 2016, that was going to suck badly enough that any Democrat could win 2020, and the “moderate” they’d pick for the job would be so milquetoast that the party would have to drop them from the ticket to keep Trump from winning 2024.

              Now all that has come to pass, and the Democrats are positioning themselves to be the new business-friendly, pro-genocide bad guys for the unions to organize a party against. We might be getting the “good” future after all.

              • LengAwaits@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                7 days ago

                Sounds like you’ve got it all figured out.

                Good luck out there, and keep an eye out for that hindsight bias, it’ll creep up on ya’.

                • knightly the Sneptaur@pawb.social
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  6 days ago

                  This isn’t hindsight, it was foresight. I posted these specific predictions on Twitter in 2015.

                  I figured the Democrats would be unlikely to convince the incumbent to drop out of this election, but if they did it’d swing the entire race. Literally nothing that has happened in the last 9.5 years surprised me more than Nancy Pelosi successfully talking Biden down from the campaign.

                  • LengAwaits@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    2
                    ·
                    6 days ago

                    Alright. Given that you’ve said when Trump loses, rather than if, I’d love to get some insight into why it is you predict that he’s going to lose.