As the title states I am confused on this matter. The way I see it, the USA has a two party system and in the next few weeks they’re either going to have Trump or Harris as president, come inauguration day. With this in mind doesn’t it make sense to vote for the person least likely to escalate the situation even more.

Giving your vote to an independent or worse not voting at all, just gives more of a chance for Trump to win the election and then who knows what crazy stuff he will allow, or encourage, Israel to get away with.

I really don’t get the logic. As sure nobody wants to vote for a party allowing these heinous crimes to be committed, but given you’re getting one of them shouldn’t you be voting for the one that will be the least horrible of the two.

Please don’t come at me with pro-Israeli rhetoric as this isn’t the post for that, I’m asking about why people would make such choices and I’m not up for debate on the Middle East, on this post, you can DM me for that.

Edit: Bedtime here now so will respond to incoming comments in the morning, love starting the day with an inbox full 😊.

Edit 2: This blew up, it’s a little overwhelming right now but I do intent on replying to everybody that took the time to comment. Just need to get in the right headspace.

  • b_n@sh.itjust.works
    14·
    22 days ago

    And if you’re in this position where you see this all as fact, then what is the alternative?

    IMO there is none.

    Trying to rebuild the system at the time of an election is the wrong time. You have two options - because that is the reality you live in (right now).

    Work on building something better AFTER the election, change the system, fix it for the future. But for NOW, you get a choice. Not voting (in this system) is a vote for ambivalence, and you dont seem like the person that doesn’t care.

    But importantly, work to change the system later. You have valid concerns and the system you are in is broken, but you can make a change.

    Edit: to not be misconstrued, I agree with the issues at hand that you’re highlighting. I’m just saying that the alternative is worse and that is a likelihood in this reality no?

    • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
      12·
      22 days ago

      Always time later right? Later never comes though does it.

      And all of this concern was here before the election, its only getting attention now because during election season is the only time it has an effect.

      People just blow off protestors during the non election season. Why? Because they don’t have to bargain with them, they have no power then.

      • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world
        5·
        22 days ago

        They have no power because they believe they have no power and dissociate. Self fulfilling prophecy. All the power in this country comes from the people. It’s a fact.

        • AgentDalePoopster@lemmy.world
          6·
          22 days ago

          There have been countless protests in the US against the genocide of Palestinians over the last year, since Israel really kicked the genocide into high gear. What have the democrats (the party that everyone insists can be pressured by their base) done in response to this?

            • AgentDalePoopster@lemmy.world
              6·
              22 days ago

              Of course they are. Harris might lose because of her positions on Gaza. And in spite of this, most Democrats, including Harris, refuse to budge on their “ironclad” support of Israel. Just like the Biden administration has refused to budge in the face of countless protests against their support for Israel over the past year.

              I’m arguing against the whole “elect them and then pressure them into moving left” rhetoric because that has proven to be a completely ineffective tactic.

              • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world
                2·
                22 days ago

                Seems like your tactics has been ineffective. I mean especially when you consider trump taking office and unleashing only terrible shit that a addled minded fascist would want.

                • AgentDalePoopster@lemmy.world
                  5·
                  22 days ago

                  Oh don’t get it twisted, none of these are “my tactics” and I understand that the current Dem leadership won’t budge on their support for genocide. They’ve made it clear that their tactic is “try to win a presidential election while going against their own base”. We’ll see how effective that tactic is in around two weeks :-).

    • reddit_sux@lemmy.world
      1·
      22 days ago

      After election protests were shot at, broken up and arrested. Election is the only way to change how stuff is today.