• Strykker@programming.dev
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    Well you should do that pissing match during the candidate selection then. Don’t drag it out to after the choices are set.

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      Why was the choice set since like a year already? And we met the same hostility and “reasons” 9 months ago. Truth is not enough people care enough to push for change. They just wanted to feel that their lot is not threatened, solidarity be damned. Well this does not work, as history has infamously shown time and time again. Unless people band together they’ll be picked off one by one.

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        The only time I saw resistance was when people were pitching about Joe or harris without saying, hey vote for candidate x y or z in the primary they are better than Joe or Harris.

        If all you do is say so, and so is ship I’m not voting for them, then your just being a nuisance.

        And when the context is Trump or Harris being elected, saying “I’m not voting for Harris” means by default you are supporting Trump.

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          And when the context is Trump or Harris being elected, saying “I’m not voting for Harris” means by default you are supporting Trump.

          So if i am saying “I’m not voting for Trump” then what happens? By this logic even if i vote the same third party candidate or not at all, i would be supporting Harris.

          The only way this “default” works is if people are expected to vote Democrats. And if that is the default expectation it means they can do whatever they want, with no accountability. Instead of politicians having to win your vote with good politics, the blame gets shifted to the voter for not being loyal to the party. That is gaslighting. And when having these discussions it seems a lot of people were gaslit quite successfully by the party elites.