Conversely, there were countries even back then that supported all these things. The Iroquois Confederacy was famous for giving women virtually all the power (except for running for office), and Japan had LGBT accomodations (and interracial respect, albeit with some skepticism) going back centuries.
There are other places that come close to those. For example, the ancient Greeks had LGBT acceptance, as ordained by the gods, albeit from a very male-centric point of view. Nevertheless, Iroquois history is what you’ll find fulfills that, and as someone who has been exposed to their culture for a while, I can offer a bit of insight.
The rulers, which always ruled in consensus groups of five or six, were always male, as was three out of four of the founders of their government (Deganawida, Hiawatha, Atotarho, and Jigonsasee who was the female whose idea it was), but the voters (because it was a democracy that surpassed any other democratically) were always female, and most rights centered around us, including divorce (a woman could simply walk out of a household if she wanted), and goddesses took center stage.
They even went so far as to say civilization was founded once before Deganawida founded it, by a female founder called Godasiyo, but her pet doggo caused a civil war as doggos do, and after her last ditch attempts at saving the kingdom failed, she turned into a fish in shame.
Poland, Warsaw (then had separate legal systems), The Netherlands, Bavaria, the Dominican Republic and El Salvador all decriminalized same sex relationships in the 1810s and 20s. So it wasn’t exactly all completely dead-against.
“If I could but play the advocate of the devil’s for but a moment; does not an educated person, who hast accrued more whelth, hencewheretofore demonstrated a more explicit display of personhood?”
an edgelord/temporarily embarrassed thousand-aire of the time, probably.
Trans rights are human rights
Gay rights are human rights
Black peoples rights are human rights
Women’s rights are human rights
Human rights exist.
These will still get you cancelled in 2023 in some countries.
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Conversely, there were countries even back then that supported all these things. The Iroquois Confederacy was famous for giving women virtually all the power (except for running for office), and Japan had LGBT accomodations (and interracial respect, albeit with some skepticism) going back centuries.
This is the history I want to learn more about!!
Which one?
Anything that is embracing diversity/women’s rights/trans rights/etc. Sounds like a really interesting culture.
There are other places that come close to those. For example, the ancient Greeks had LGBT acceptance, as ordained by the gods, albeit from a very male-centric point of view. Nevertheless, Iroquois history is what you’ll find fulfills that, and as someone who has been exposed to their culture for a while, I can offer a bit of insight.
The rulers, which always ruled in consensus groups of five or six, were always male, as was three out of four of the founders of their government (Deganawida, Hiawatha, Atotarho, and Jigonsasee who was the female whose idea it was), but the voters (because it was a democracy that surpassed any other democratically) were always female, and most rights centered around us, including divorce (a woman could simply walk out of a household if she wanted), and goddesses took center stage.
They even went so far as to say civilization was founded once before Deganawida founded it, by a female founder called Godasiyo, but her pet doggo caused a civil war as doggos do, and after her last ditch attempts at saving the kingdom failed, she turned into a fish in shame.
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interracial respect
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“Trans isn’t a word. Everyone has a right to be gay, jolly and happy or whatever synonym you want to use.”
Maybe he means trans-Atlantic rights?
“I say there can be no justice, so long as the sodomites are not allowed to practice love as they will!”
canceled
Poland, Warsaw (then had separate legal systems), The Netherlands, Bavaria, the Dominican Republic and El Salvador all decriminalized same sex relationships in the 1810s and 20s. So it wasn’t exactly all completely dead-against.
“If I could but play the advocate of the devil’s for but a moment; does not an educated person, who hast accrued more whelth, hencewheretofore demonstrated a more explicit display of personhood?”