Donald Trump has suggested large numbers of Palestinians should leave Gaza to “just clean out” the whole strip, after ordering the US military to restart shipments of 2,000lb bombs to Israel.
The US president said he wanted Gaza residents to move to neighbouring nations, and that they could be displaced “temporarily or could be long-term”, after a phone call with Jordan’s King Abdullah on Saturday.
“I said to him: I’d love you to take on more because I’m looking at the whole Gaza Strip right now and it’s a mess, it’s a real mess. I’d like him to take people,” Trump said, when asked about the call.
He also suggested Egypt as a destination for Gaza residents, and said he would raise the issue with President Abdel Fatah al-Sisi on Sunday.
And that’s why Kamala’s stance on Palestine never bothered me.
I knew that as bad as it was, Trump would be worse.
I was right.
Gaza was fucked under either presidential option and we all knew that. Now we also get to enjoy getting fucked by Trump at home and hand the right the country. Other countries get to get bullied like Canada, Colombia, Greenland, Panama, and who knows who else and to what insane degree. Plus, Gaza will get to deal with a president that doesn’t bend to protest pressures at all and gives 0 fucks about humanitarian issues. We sure showed Biden for being an AIPAC puppet like the rest of the government. This is why the right has taken our government over. We constantly in fight and ignore realities for ideological purity while the right unites under the broad strokes of their agenda. When no option has the desired outcome, sometimes you have to pick the lesser evil.
Nope, under the Democrats, there are many Representatives who would listen and put pressure on a Dem president to do the right thing. Thanks to people with a smooth brain who think BOTH SIDES SAME, they are going to find out what everyone else already knew… they were never the same.
Hey but while Im being lead into a camp a bunch leftists here can feel good knowing they did the “right” thing by not opposing fascists
Indeed, this is what I keep telling people.
There’s no happy-feel-good everyone walks away with their faerie tale sitcom ending.
The world situation is fucked, when your options are crawl through broken glass or swim across a river of piss, well it might not smell good, but at least I’m a strong swimmer and urine is allegedly sterile.
Okay I double checked, urine isn’t sterile, but it has low amounts of bacteria and isn’t going to lead to me bleeding out or needing immediate medical attention.
If Harris was worried about it, why didn’t she change course on the campaign trail?
Why did she let Trump take office?
Because most people weren’t arguing about Gaza and it wouldn’t have changed the outcome.
With the benefit of hindsight, the only way she could have won would have been to address the high cost of living. “The economy” was the highest ranked issue and people voted for the guy who lied about eggs.
These comment are absolutely insane. It is like, yes lets cook this genocide on slow heat for a few years while enjoying our life in the US. Blaming anyone who took stand, and continue to take stand, instead of blaming themselves.
If Gaza was actually a reason for democrat losing, why people didnt protest who they did it to the point where it was clear to them it will make a difference. And if they did, why blaming people instead of the party that didnt want their votes?
On top of that as you and everyone mention it is economy proven by data, but they want to blame people whos families bombed by american made weapon! Like wtf is wrong with these people!
Well, I know it wasn’t the sole cause for her loss.
No hindsight needed! EVERYONE was telling her campaign this, and they ignored it, in favor of “data driven strategy”, where they A/B tested the hell out of everything for a theoretical “typical voter”.
Yes, because Harris wasn’t believing anything to be an issue, while homelessness is spiking, costs of living are spiking, costs for housing are spiking… Harris demanded people believe her, over their own growling stomachs.
So, yes, her loss was multipartite, and had little to do with voters who couldn’t be arsed to vote for someone who has no connection to reality, and loves engaging in genocide.
She didn’t let Trump take office. You and everyone who didn’t vote for Democrats or worked around the clock to try to depress voter turnout for Democrats let Trump take office.
Lol she literally ignore Michigan voters, they attack heavy handed youth protester, then ignore people who saying economy is fucked. She did let trump take office.
She didn’t?
Last I checked, she peaceably handed power over to him…
Sometimes it’s better to rip the dressing off ad quick as possible.
Harris’ was to let them be slaughtered in place…
Did, did you not read the original post that started this converation?
Unfortunately, some people are more willing to fight Israel to the last Palestinian than seek realistic solutions.
A realistic solution could have been had over a year ago, if we stopped blocking the UN, and stopped shipping them the tools to genocide…
What’s worst? Forced relo or outright slaughter?
It’s both genocide…
It’s cute you think the Trump administration is going to prevent outright slaughter.
I never thought he would. I just never actually thought Harris would, either.
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Yeah because I guess its better to allow a marginalized people to be tortured, raped and killed. I guess its their fault for being born in that part of the world and being of a certain background.
Its never free free to do the right thing. Do not blame the Lebanese government choosing to support Palestine for creating the American-funded missiles that struck your friend down.
I do not understand how you can seriously argue that it is the fault of the Palestinian people that your friend was murdered by an American missile fired on behalf of the Israeli government.
As someone who’s lost friends to horrible people who do horrible things, please know that I say this with a heavy heart.
It’s rare that we’re able to save everyone, especially with stakes this high.
That is not what I said at all. I’m not sacrificing anyone, I’m saying that there’s no option we can take that allows for absolutely no one to die.
Unless you expect that I collect the 7 Chaos Emerald, turn into a Super Being, and destroy all of Israel’s munitions while a golden goddess, but the Chaos Emeralds aren’t real so there goes that option.
Life isn’t a fantasy, it’s tough, people die, and there’s not a god damn thing we can do about it. If there was, I’d be doing it.
This video released yesterday describes your comments perfectly.
No, no it doesn’t. I am admitting that there’s nothing I can do to improve an unfortunate situation, especially when I have my own problems.
I think the mistake you’re making here is you assume there’s something I can do.
I’m not a politician, I don’t have the authority to declare Happy Birthday.
If I were a congresswoman or some shit, yeah I’d filibuster bills that give Israel more weapons and demand we focus on bringing peace to Palestine, I would refuse to vote for any bill that gives one red cent to the zionists, especially when that money would be better used guaranteeing healthcare for our citizens.
I am a private citizen, I am a TRANSGENDER private citizen living in the south, my immediate concern is to get rid of the Republicans because they literally want to kill me.
At no point have I ever expressed a lack of concern for Palestine, just an admittance that there’s nothing I can do for them. I sincerely have no idea what it is you want from me.
There are always upvotes for people saying that everything is solvable with a perfect moral stance. There are always downvotes for anyone saying “political realities exist”.
One of many problems with the world: An Inconvenient Truth will always lose to A Reassuring Lie
Yes I know but please stop virtue signalling about Palestine that is all being asked of you.
Man, imagine considering someone saying “I knew harris would not drastically descalate the genocide of palestine, but voted for her regardless because I knew trump would just serve to escalate the situation.” to be virtue signalling.
You are seriously arguing that her inability to matter in the scene of global politics invalidates her from having an opinion, because its just “virtue signalling”.
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Re-read what you wrote, it contradicts itself.
One side being even worse makes the other side less bad.
By definition, one side being worse means the other side is automatically less bad.
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That’s a false equivalence.
John Doe’s actions have no connection to his brothers.
Here, either Trump or Harris was going to be the President. There was no action I could take that would have allowed a third party to enter that equation.
Even if me and the rest of America voted for Jill Stein, the Electoral College would still give the votes to Trump or Kamala.
If I were in a position where I could snap my fingers and bar Trump and Harris from entering politics again, then Bernie Sanders would be in the White House, Nethanyu would be awaiting his court date, and Israel would be paying reperations to Palestine.
But, I’m not Thanos and the only gauntlet I have is an old Power Glove in a box somewhere next to a broken PSP and a physical copy of Super Metroid.
Damn that’s crazy. What do you want bro to do about it? You want 'em to overthrow the american government?
If you had to pick between John Doe with a knife, Jim Doe with 2000lbs of explosives, or to have no say in the matter, which would you pick?
I really don’t understand why I need to explain this to you, but if there are only two options, the less bad one is the better option.
Right? It’s like the
“Oh well if you stop mass murderers from having guns, aren’t they just gonna use knives instead”
To that I say “Unless you’re Simon Belmont slaughtering waves of Dracula’s minions, I don’t think you’re gonna get anywhere near as high of a body count throwing knives at people.”
Very much enjoy the nerd culture references
Uh, it absolutely does, and the fact that you called someone an idiot while spewing such warped logic is hilarious.
I’m on the side that hands out awful tasting licorice candy. You are on the side that punches people in the face.
If you can’t understand logic this simple, no wonder this country is screwed.
You worded that poorly. You’re trying to say two sides performing evil acts are both evil, even if one side is more evil than the other.
Right?
Except it is a fact that there ARE degrees of “evil”, where one side has the ability to listen to reason while the other will escalate the worst outcome.
Semantic arguments go nowhere.
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Uh, yeah it does. It is less bad than the only other option.
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