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Summary
The White House is drafting an executive order to dismantle the Department of Education, aligning with Trump’s long-standing pledge.
However, Congress must approve the agency’s abolition, making its passage unlikely despite GOP control. Critics, including the National Education Association, warn this move would harm students, increase costs, and weaken protections.
GOP lawmakers have repeatedly attempted to eliminate the department since its 1979 founding.
Trump also recently signed an order expanding school choice, reinforcing the Republican agenda of decentralizing education policy.
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And the sad part is that a lot of teachers voted for Cheetolini.
that will… teach them?
If NBC thinks he needs an act of Congress then they haven’t been paying paying attention to USAID.
Who the fuck am I kidding, they know damn well what’s going on and refuse to print it.
This CollegeHumor video was 8 years ahead of its time: If the Other Party Wins
Almost forgot Congress was a thing since there’s been little to no mention about them in this shit circus
That’s by design, they stay silent and don’t take the polling hit.
Keep people dumb. Write their own history to “educate” the dumb. Sounds about right.
For this reason, if you have anything with at least 32 GB of RAM and a GPU, you should get a copy of Ollama and test it out running a local copy of Deepseek. That’s going to soon become the best 0 new dollars tool for access to education.
So how is Betsy DeVos gonna siphon money for public schools to provide schools?
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.
I was going to ask if this means I no longer have to pay back my student loans, but of course I know better than that.
Shit is getting done so scattershot, I think there’s a really, really good chance that a lot of records are going to fall through the cracks or “fall through the cracks” as different databases are deleted, offices closed, code based altered, and agencies demolished.
Would be funny af if some madlad goes maliciouscompliance and deletes all records on student loans or something like that.
Don’t forget those backups need to also be corrupted or otherwise unrecoverable as well
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Thats the goal.
Evennif somehow there is another election, everything will be too broken to even begin to repair it.
Yup. And I thought that the U.K. was a shit hole.
Is this better or worse then him packing the Department of Education with ideologues?
Suprise to know their even was one.
In case anyone is still wondering if Republicans are enemies of the United States of America, you need not wonder anymore.
Why use big words when small words do trick.
Soon enough, when you have to select a language on a devive, the difference between: english (uk) and english (american) will make a whole lot more sense.
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The executive order’s a symbolic gesture—Congress won’t scrap the Department outright. But the subtext? Steady erosion. Shift student debt oversight to Treasury, pare back civil rights investigations, let federal education funds atrophy. States then fill the vacuum: red ones push vouchers, defund “woke” curricula, blue ones scramble to plug gaps.
The playbook’s transparent. Undermine trust in public institutions, then offer “choice” as salvation. Rural GOP districts take the bait, then recoil when their Title I lunches and special ed services evaporate. Even conservatives quietly rely on federal data systems and grant streams—hypocrisy’s baked in.
Latest school choice expansions? Distraction tactics. Real damage accrues in the margins: disabled students lose protections, civil rights complaints backlog, teacher retention plummets. ED’s survived 40 years of GOP vitriol because dismantling it’s all optics, no payoff.
Predictable cycle. Provoke outrage, let chaos incentivize privatization. Rinse, repeat.
The executive orders are the start of rule by decree, and as long as the legislative and judicial branches let it happen, he’ll get away with it.
Rule by decree? My brother in Christ, have you met the federal bureaucracy? Even if they published the order tomorrow, implementation would take years of litigation. Death by a thousand memoranda.
The executive order’s a symbolic gesture—Congress won’t scrap the Department outright.
You’re wrong. They will not wait for Congress to do anything.
Who the fuck is going to stop them, you?
The courts, actually. Been there since Nixon tried similar stunts. Administrative state’s got more staying power than most realize. But hey, doom scrolling’s more fun than reading SCOTUS precedents.
Oh, the SCOTUS that said anything done by a sitting president is automatically legal? That one?
Ah, you mean the unitary executive theory? That magical interpretation where presidential power is somehow absolute? Fascinating how selective that reading was—worked great for executive orders, not so much for criminal immunity.
The courts have been remarkably… flexible with precedent lately. But even in this twilight zone version of constitutional law, there’s still that pesky difference between issuing orders and having them actually implemented. The machinery of state has its own peculiar physics.
Though I suppose when SCOTUS is rewriting administrative law on the fly, precedent becomes more of a suggestion than a rule. Welcome to the constitutional speedrun era.
The playbook’s transparent. Undermine trust in public institutions, then offer “choice” as salvation.
So that’s the game
Been the Republicans game for as long as I can remember.
“The government sucks, it’s too big, and it’s broken. Elect me so I can break it more to prove I was right”
Well yeah, but that’s Step 1, I was never sure what Step 2 was…
A false choice that equates to gift-wrapping a ticking time bomb and saying it’s a brand new alarm clock…
Makes sense
Congress doesn’t need to be okay with it if Elon’s cronies waltz in and kick everyone out.
Ah, the classic “just do it anyway” approach. Cute, but federal agencies have this pesky thing called statutory authority. Even Elon’s crew can’t magic away the Administrative Procedure Act. Though watching them try would be… entertaining.
What about the last eight years has made you think these people will follow the rule of law?
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Look, I get the revolutionary fervor—very 2025 energy. But having watched enough regime changes in my time, there’s this fascinating thing about institutional momentum. Even when someone kicks in the door waving the proverbial .44, bureaucracy has its own gravity.
Sure, the last eight years showed some… creative interpretations of executive power. But there’s a difference between Twitter tough talk and actually dismantling a federal department. Those career civil servants? They’ve survived multiple “this time it’s different” moments.
Not saying the system’s perfect—hell, it’s a mess. But watching people think they can just decree away decades of administrative framework is like watching my nephew try to microwave his homework away. Entertaining, but not quite how things work.
Then again, what do I know? I just watch the pendulum swing.
I understand your argument. But the entire premise is grounded in the assumption of courts upholding precedent and not letting an executive operate outside the confines of the law. The president has immunity. Congress is ineffectual at best and actively evil at worst. I mean for fucks sake, the current occupant of the White House lead an attempted coup and is still being permitted to sign, enact and decree legislation. If the checks and balances in our system were functioning, I’d be willing to get in line with you. But it’s so painfully clear that they are not.
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You know what this reminds me of? Nixon’s impoundment crisis. Back in '73, he tried to just… not spend congressionally appropriated funds. Thought executive authority trumped everything else. Ended with the Budget Act of '74 and a whole new framework of constraints.
Or consider Reagan’s attempt to abolish the Department of Energy. Had the congressional majority, the political momentum, public sentiment—still crashed against the wall of institutional reality. Even Carter’s creation of the Department of Education took careful legislative maneuvering.
The system’s definitely more brittle now, no argument there. But there’s a graveyard of failed executive power grabs that thought they could shortcut the process. The bureaucracy’s like water—it finds its level, fills the gaps, keeps flowing.
Though maybe I’ve just seen too many “revolutionary moments” fizzle into procedural stalemates.
It’s crazy that people still don’t seem to understand this.
This is a good choice as they just sit around and do nothing all day anyway considering who got elected.
The White House is drafting
an executive ordera royal decree to dismantle the Department of Education, aligning with Trump’slong-standing pledgelong con.CriticsAn overwhelming consensus of experts, including the National Education Association, warn this move would harm students, increase costs, and weaken protections.Trump also recently signed
an order expanding school choicea decree lowering educational standards, reinforcing the Republican agenda ofdecentralizing education policydismantling public secular education in favor of religious and political indoctrination.There, fixed the “we must obscure reality by using their terms so they won’t come after us next” cowardice.
