CEO publicly praised Trump and the Republican party. It’s not the political alignment you’d want from the CEO of a service where privacy is their main selling-point.
CEO went full maga, was given an opportunity to correct, then doubled down. After receiving blowback he tripled down and then started lashing out at customers using official channels.
So if I open an account with Posteo and then configure it so I’m using Apple’s Mail app on my mobile devices to read the email, am I defeating the privacy and/encription entirely?
Posteo does not have a dedicated email client.
No, not entirely. Posteo uses at least strong TLS (transport route encryption), meaning the message can hardly be intercepted between your (posteo) mailserver and the recipient mailserver. Everything else is unencrypted: the emails rest unencrypted on the posteo server (unless you activate crypt sorage, easy to do) and on the recipient server (e.g. Gmail). The latter will analyse your emails even if you never consented.
All this can be stopped using Posteo, though. They provide a lot of tools help on this on their homepage.
Look for PGP and inbound encryption.
He praised Trump publically, not a great look, but whatever, then tried to say he was not being political, while being even more political. His PR department swooped in to Reddit and started posting straw man attacks. I don’t trust their CEO at this point. If it were any other just email company, I’d be down with it, but their whole schtick is security and privacy, and apparently, they’re led by an idiot.
If I’m taking my shit out of google, I’m not taking to some place that’s positioned to be more of the same if I can help it, and they really appear to be more of the same.
Personally I don’t think it’s that bad. It was absolutely misleading but not a lie.
I mostly care about no logging policies when it comes to VPN and as long as the content of the emails are encrypted/not logged, I don’t mind that much.
That CEO is the same guy that’s going to decide when and when not to sell your data. That is the CEO who’s boot licking and courting governments for favors and won’t think twice about selling you down the river.
Based on his Twitter affirmations, If Trump said hey I want you to give me the data on this guy disable is encryption without him knowing it and give it to me he wouldn’t even bat an eye.
I think you absolutely should care about the political opinions of the CEO considering it’s a private company and the CEO most likely gets to dictate the political leaning of the company. It’s not like Twitter turned to shit simply because Musk bought it. It turned to shit because (among other things) Musk made business decisions based on his political opinions.
You could argue you don’t need to care because their political opinions aren’t influencing their business right now, but don’t you think it might be a bit too late to care when the business starts to reflect the politics of the CEO? For example if tomorrow Trumps wants to know the contents of your email and the CEO decides to appease Trump you might start to care about the political h
I will cross that road when there is a good reason to do that.
I simply won’t switch just because of someone’s opinions that don’t affect me.
I don’t have time for that shit.
I’m trying to, but Proton made me throw up in my mouth a little.
Now I have the option to do everything I was doing, but poorly AND spread across 3 vendors.
What’s wrong with proton? It works pretty well for me.
CEO publicly praised Trump and the Republican party. It’s not the political alignment you’d want from the CEO of a service where privacy is their main selling-point.
CEO went full maga, was given an opportunity to correct, then doubled down. After receiving blowback he tripled down and then started lashing out at customers using official channels.
damn, i only followed the dramma for the first couple posts, do you mind posting a link to read the third one?
Use Posteo, amazing company and business model
So if I open an account with Posteo and then configure it so I’m using Apple’s Mail app on my mobile devices to read the email, am I defeating the privacy and/encription entirely? Posteo does not have a dedicated email client.
No, not entirely. Posteo uses at least strong TLS (transport route encryption), meaning the message can hardly be intercepted between your (posteo) mailserver and the recipient mailserver. Everything else is unencrypted: the emails rest unencrypted on the posteo server (unless you activate crypt sorage, easy to do) and on the recipient server (e.g. Gmail). The latter will analyse your emails even if you never consented. All this can be stopped using Posteo, though. They provide a lot of tools help on this on their homepage. Look for PGP and inbound encryption.
I’m not sure if this covers everything, I don’t have access to Reddit. https://sh.itjust.works/post/31843393
True, works fine.
Then they said they didn’t log IP’s then handed over one of their users IP’s that got an activist locked up.
There there was the bootlicking incident (it’s a paywall but you get the gist before it disappears)
https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans/
He praised Trump publically, not a great look, but whatever, then tried to say he was not being political, while being even more political. His PR department swooped in to Reddit and started posting straw man attacks. I don’t trust their CEO at this point. If it were any other just email company, I’d be down with it, but their whole schtick is security and privacy, and apparently, they’re led by an idiot.
If I’m taking my shit out of google, I’m not taking to some place that’s positioned to be more of the same if I can help it, and they really appear to be more of the same.
Ah alright. I personally don’t care that much about the CEOs political opinions as long as that isn’t reflected in the business itself.
I had to look for more information on the IP logging thing since I didn’t know much about it. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/09/privacy-focused-protonmail-provided-a-users-ip-address-to-authorities/
Personally I don’t think it’s that bad. It was absolutely misleading but not a lie.
I mostly care about no logging policies when it comes to VPN and as long as the content of the emails are encrypted/not logged, I don’t mind that much.
Starlink is great in rural areas, still feels uncomfortable to using their service even if that’s your only choice.
(Luckily, I live in the city and don’t have to rely on a nazi’s internet)
I’m not saying Andy Yen is necessarily a nazi, its just the right wing libertarian vibes is so unconfortable.
That CEO is the same guy that’s going to decide when and when not to sell your data. That is the CEO who’s boot licking and courting governments for favors and won’t think twice about selling you down the river.
Based on his Twitter affirmations, If Trump said hey I want you to give me the data on this guy disable is encryption without him knowing it and give it to me he wouldn’t even bat an eye.
That’s not who I want protecting my data
I think you absolutely should care about the political opinions of the CEO considering it’s a private company and the CEO most likely gets to dictate the political leaning of the company. It’s not like Twitter turned to shit simply because Musk bought it. It turned to shit because (among other things) Musk made business decisions based on his political opinions.
You could argue you don’t need to care because their political opinions aren’t influencing their business right now, but don’t you think it might be a bit too late to care when the business starts to reflect the politics of the CEO? For example if tomorrow Trumps wants to know the contents of your email and the CEO decides to appease Trump you might start to care about the political h
I will cross that road when there is a good reason to do that. I simply won’t switch just because of someone’s opinions that don’t affect me. I don’t have time for that shit.