ID: Photo of a pink felt heart on a slightly paler pink background, overlaying is stylised text: “make the world a better place punch a nazi in their face”
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“All I want is one embrace!”
“I’ll twist this bottle in a Nazi’s face!”
For the martial masters among us, this is one way to dispose of a Nazi.
ew dont put your tongue in nazis, they are dirty you might get very ill
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Nazis are other than living.
Do I get partial credit if I punch them elsewhere?
I feel like a punch to the liver, throat, kidneys, solar plexus, or right in the dick are all full credit shots.
C’s get degrees.
Bonus points for a roundhouse kick to the gonads
Make sure not to punch anyone else though, cus I’m quite sure that brain damage is a leading cause of nazism
Eh, do what they do, genocide em.
i doubt this will invite them to reflect their ideology
they wont reflect their ideology
lmaooo, “maybe try fighting harder on the marketing place of ideas?! 👉👈🥺”
Fascism can only be stopped by a bullet in the head and a a strong socialist movement exposing their workers appropriating lies
when/where has that worked, if i may ask what you’re referring to?
Any fascist parties in China or Cuba or Vietnam or Laos approaching power as in the case of the entire western world?
any … parties … in these countries?
Yes, communist ones. Now ask yourself what system is better, the one growing at a 5% GDP and average income yearly, or the one stagnating and turning to fascism
basically all of (south) eastern europe + all (now ex-)soviet republics until the 1990s
the bullet part: civil war in ussr (the whites were proto-fascist af) and ww2 in the rest of (south) eastern europe
+ fascists were perpetually heavily persecuted by the agencies of state socialism
now the movement part: socialism builds around solving the issues of the working classes first and foremost changing the material basis of society. It provides solutions which take the problem by it’s root (e.g. nor reforming capitalism – which is the root cause of poverty, homelessness, hunger etc. – but eliminating it)
facism (partially) uses a perversion of leftist rhetoric to fool and garner support from working people.
after said state socialisms found their ends, the following bourgeois “democracies” failed to address the needs of working people, allowing for fascist rhetoric to capture the minds of many. and ofc the rigorous persecution stopped too
the former territory of the GDR provides one of the best examples of the combination of the two
western and southern europe (mainly France and Italy; with the exception of Spain, which had a continued fascist presence long after WW2) had momentary violence against fascists, which was not upheld after ww2 (or after the revolution in Portugal’s case), but still had flourishing socialists movements (talking about real socialism, not the french “socialist” party), mainly strong communist parties. after their disintegration in the 90s, fascists had a much easier time and we are seeing the effects today just as well in the rest of euorpe as in Germany
so what, all that nationalist, fascist scum in yugoslavia war in the 90ies just materialized from nothing in no time?
no of course not, but the breakup of Yugoslavia is a special case…
Although you could argue that the SFRY in (especially late) 80s was hardly socialist anymore, since they had to implement exceedingly more wide-reaching reforms dictated by the IMF. Thus giving rise to material conditions which could be exploited by fascists as soon as the strong suppression of fascism stopped (which started much sooner relative to other ex-socialist countries, thanks to said reforms).
Or even that it had stopped being socialist with the beginning of depper implementations of “self-managment socialism” (to judge that is out of the scope of this comment), giving more time for the sentimenrs to foster.
Ofc the sudden rise of fascist and (ultra-)nationalist forces wasn’t only bc of material reasons, even if they fed the spread of it. Culture, questions of ethnicity and nationalism played a huge role for both historical and structural reasons.
Yugoslavia was a multi-ethnic state with deep interwoven ties between it’s peoples. A part (or result or reason for, again out of scope) of that was a either a confused dispersion, or deep regiobal integration of said ethnicities, depending on how you put it.
Here is a map based on the 1981 census
To cut things short, ethnic tension was one of the main problems the '74 constitution tried to solve. It didn’t succeeded, but was able to prolong it’s “explosion” for quite a while.
With the gradual weakining of the central government – aggrevated by Tito’s death – nationalism was allowed to spread or even cultivated inside of the individual republics…
Edit: another thing (aside from western intervwntion ofc) that enabled the dream of unity and brotherhood between the southern slavs to turn into a nightmare:
It’s military doctrine of “Total Defence”
The JNA adopted the concept of total defence (as did a number of other small European and neutral countries). Yugoslavia based its defence doctrine upon the total war concept of “Total People’s Defence” (sh. Opštenarodna odbrana / Općenarodna obrana) which drew upon Yugoslavia’s successful partisan history during the Yugoslav People’s Liberation War during the Second World War. “TND prepared the entire population to contest the occupation of the country and finally to liberate it. The Territorial Defence Forces would mobilize the population for this purpose. The combat readiness of the TDF meant that the steps of organization and training could be bypassed after the start of hostilities. The TDF would supplement the YPA, giving it greater defensive depth and an armed local population ready to support combat actions.” The entire Yugoslav population was to be engaged in armed resistance, armaments production, and civil defence under this concept. It was believed by the Yugoslav planners to be the best method by which a smaller nation could properly defend itself against a much stronger invader, specifically, NATO or the Warsaw Pact.
also:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_defence
- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_Defense_(Yugoslavia)
yet another reason was the liberlization of religious policies which led to more freedom for the catholic church and of muslim organizations, which fostered nationalistic oppition in both Croatia and Bosnia
(those are the instances I know of, might be that religious orgs of other beliefs did the same and/or additionaly in the other republic)
Edit1: writing this comment made me wanna rewatch the following video: History of Yugoslavia through music ♪♫.
It always manages to make me tear up, especially “Samo da rata ne bude” at 12:30 which practically devestates me. every. fucking. time. after that still but less soHere is the full version with eng translation: “Samo da rata ne bude” - Yugoslav Anti-War Song [Just let there be no war]
They ain’t gonna argue in good faith so there’s no point talking to them, and just ignoring them doesn’t work. Humiliating them is the best option, and proving they are physically weak is one way to do that. The only other option is to destroy them by any means necessary
you can not destroy an ideology by punching people in the face - if it were so easy many ideologies would have been erased by now
Is it by talking? With the leaders? Or are you going to have emotive talks with all the rank and file?
i do not often encounter what you might refer to as “rank and file” for most fascist are not organized. but people i encounter that fall for fascist crap often don’t need that much attention and time and are usually somewhat reliefed when you can explain to them that not everything bad is bc of jews or immigrants. they do need to be taken seriously though, and they do not react well to punch-in-the-face direct action.
this type is vastly different from the organized, spread terror and patrolling the neighborhood nazi kind - where i guess violent reaction is more appropriate (even though not a cure)
We don’t give a fuck about punching your neighbor whose got some edgy views. We need to punch this guy.
don’t know him personally, but you won’t hear me arguing - whether it helps people following him doubt their views is what i don’t believe
Sounds like the treatment didn’t take, better punch them again.
And this fucker defending them, too…
Nah, now, don’t go all moral absolutism where just because a person isn’t as rabid as you like they’re suddenly an enemy. That’s bullshit thinking.
They didn’t defend a damn thing.
Sorry, all I can hear is gargling boot noises…
Look, fuckstick, there’s a line between someone trying to be reasonable and decent and being a collaborator.
That you don’t see that, that you can’t imagine a world where any viewpoint but your own has validity makes you a fascist too, just not a nazi one.
Get off your fucking high horse, stop fucking with people that are potential allies, and grow the fuck up
There’s no being reasonable with someone that wants you dead, debatelord
Y’all motherfuckers miss the entire point.
It isn’t about whether or not it would do any good, it’s about acting like someone making a fairly normal statement to try non violence first is some kind of new nazi salute. And it’s bullshit.
The dude that made the comment that started all this bandwagon jumping, all they said was try a peaceful route first. That’s it, that’s all. Now, they also said some stupid shit later, but that’s beside the point.
The point is that this bunch of rabid assholes acting like they committed some kind of horrible act, screaming bootlicker like some kind of adolescent mob is just plain shitty.
Someone that obviously objects to the kind of person this meme is about isn’t the fucking enemy. That’s someone you recruit. You bring them in, you acknowledge their intent (at the time of the original comment, like I said, they ended up being a jackass just like the other assholes attacking them blindly), you turn them into an ally.
Do you not get how woefully small the armed left is? We’re the fucking minority. The people the most likely to actually do something, the people already armed, and with strong convictions are absurdly small as a force.
You don’t fucking attack someone that is already against your enemy, you turn them into an asset, you fucking pimple.
I’m not talking about trying to debate nazis, and anyone with half a fucking brain can tell that from my comments.
I’m talking about being fucking realistic and not being the meme that the left is too fucking busy doing this exact shit of attacking each other to ever do anything useful
But, no, of course nobody in this shitty little performative meme community thinks at all. Too busy fucking circle jerking to even actually punch a nazi. You think any of the motherfuckers, including yourself, screaming about collaborators and bootlickers would raise a fucking finger to do something? Fuck no, and that’s been the entire fucking problem with trying to do any fucking thing useful for as long as I’ve been old enough to try. It’s fucking pulling teeth to get anyone to even wave a fucking sign, much less take a real risk.
Fucking pathetic.
“fighting” fascists on the marketplace of ideas
being reasonable
choose one
Here again, same failure. Keep trying to fail like that. This place will not recognize you sucking fascist cocks as defendable.
Jfc, imagine piping up do defend literal nazis, people who have chosen to follow an ideology dedicated to the extermination of people for who they ARE, and who are actively rounding people up in camps.
Go fuck yourself, collaborator.
Oh, and just fyi:
“Only one thing could have stopped our movement – if our adversaries had understood its principle and from the first day smashed with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement“. - Adolf Hitler
just because you can’t deny that punching people in the face makes them not lose their ideology does neither make me a nazi, nor a defender of such
Seriously dude, dial it back. You’ve got spittle flying out of the screen there
I’m not a dude, and you can feel free to go fuck yourself too, bootlicker.
Nah. Being right like that can’t be defeated. Especially not the way you just tried to.
Makes me feel better though!
ok, but isn’t the goal the end of fascism?
They didn’t reason themselves into fascism they’re not going to reason their way out either.
well, most of them do. they are often fed false info, get preached bullshit (racism, etc) “reasoning” and yeah, they fall for it. but the only way out for them is people taking them (and their thoughts) seriously, taking them by the (proverbial) hand and leading them back
Good luck with that, liberal.
yay, name-calling ftw
“I want to round your kind up into camps”
“Oh honey no, that’s mean we can’t do that” -you
Yeah, I respect the principle, but it isn’t realistic.
By the time someone embraces that kind of ideology, you aren’t talking them out of it. And, more important, you aren’t ending the ideology one at a time.
It takes something huge to break through that kind of thinking and built up hate. Yeah, you run into cases of it happening when the nazi/fascist/white supremacist/bigot changes over time when no longer able to have support and has someone guiding them. But that’s not going to end it once it’s an existential threat.
And it is. The ideology was tolerated too long, and supported by people in power. You just don’t have time to talk that away.
it takes something huge to break through that kind of thinking […]
nah, a 9mm will do just fine
Well, yeah, on an individual basis.
You need something with a bit better ballistics, and nore versatility than the typical 9mil platform, which is often a handgun. For effective large scale efforts, you’d be looking at something like 7.62, 5.56, or even the old reliable 308. Hell, if you don’t mind going with something that’s less widely available in terms of big stockpiles, the field is wide open.
Tbh though, if it’s handgun only, I’m still going .45. Yeah, you lose capacity, but you gain in effective force delivered.
9mm would be more for burner use against single targets for sure. Easy to get, and easy to get cheaply, so easy to toss.
The fuck did you think I was talking about? When I mean huge, I mean taking care of the nazi problem period.
well, in ex-Yugoslavia you afaik still got plenty of 8mm mouser for all the neo-ustashe and /-chetniks
(it was also more of a joke remark lol)
Heh, I actually have one of those. They aren’t cutting edge, but you slap a decent scope on one, and it’ll get the job done.
It takes something huge
you are talking in absolutes and as if you knew what huge thing would solve the issue, but i guess you don’t since this thread is about punching individuals in the face?
