• Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world
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    My understanding of the different operating systems

    MacOS: One time hardware payment for their service (plus for every other device)

    Linux: Free as in price free and freedom

    Windows: 30+ subscriptions to edit 1 file, then cooldown till next day or upgrade subscriptions to enterpise version for a kidney/per user/per month.

    Title

    ChomeOS: Communism for the children, supported by the Education System

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      Apple heavily pushes their users towards iCloud subscriptions. More so on iOS than macOS but still.

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      imo macOS is better value than Windows. A Windows PC of similar quality to what Apple offers (built quality and specs) is not that much cheaper and with a Mac you get a ton of actually usable software included.

      Obviously FOSS still wins offering a ton of good software for free, lots of choice and the option to choose from hardware at any price point. But Windows is just bad unless you’re an enterprise user or gamer (and the latter is changing fast in Linux favour).

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        Have you ever built PCs? Macs are significantly more expensive for the same spec

        The rest I agree with, it doesn’t help that Windows has been steadily going downhill with each new version…

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          I guess for desktops you have a point, especially if you build it yourself. I was thinking of laptops mostly and also considering the build quality and things like the keyboard/trackpad, screen and speaker quality. If you want something comparable running Windows the price difference isn’t going to be massive.

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            You can buy a top CPU laptop then upgrade or even pay to upgrade with high quality ram and storage modules and you would still be paying less than an equivalent Mac. Which you can’t upgrade of course, because the only option is buying as is out of the gate. No matter what Apple says, 32 GB of ram simply doesn’t cost $300, their pricing is meant to fleece customers.

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    Finally, I can proudly proclaim that I’m no longer bound Microsoft’s bullshit. Been a rocky start, but I’ve been happily using Kubuntu on my Surface for a while now, and it’s going awesome

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      I have a lenovo yoga 14s which is similarly transformable. Are there good resources out there for installing linux on these kinds of laptop, or are they mostly focused on surface laptops?

      Honestly Windows on it is just a nightmare and I’d love to ditch it.

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          Thanks! Looks like on the talk page there’s doubt about whether it even has a touchscreen, which is a little discouraging. I guess I can just try, but It’s good to know a resource like this exists.

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        It’s a Surface Go 2, 8GB RAM, I think - maybe 4 - and a couple years old now. Haven’t tried, actually, since I rarely if ever need the cameras. However, I read that getting the cameras to work is a bit of a hassle. Not impossible but annoying

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    This is misinformation. They added the login requirement for their Generative AI and the actual notepad doesn’t require a login. But I guess we’re ragebaiting today.

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          I love Kate, but I’ve only been using it since last August. Been using npp for a decade before that, even as my IDE, and I felt like it was stronger than Kate.

          Kate has a lot of features that are not well documented or that you have to tape together to make something functional, while npp just works out of the box or with one of its many addons. Additionally the Kate documentation website is atrocious, lacking even basic search functionality. I had to join their IRC channel to get help figuring out something (path to some obscure config file that the latest version actually reads from), and while they were most helpful, I really shouldn’t have had to go through all that trouble.

          Maybe my approach to trying to solve a problem was wrong, coming from Windows + npp.

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            Maybe I’ll give npp a test again. But I’ve been using kate because I’ve been using it on my linux system and found out I can install it at work on windows as well

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      Is the Genevieve AI enabled by default?

      After opening the notepad app does it ask you for that login?

      Is your access to notepad restricted by the login?

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    So, turns out that they final push that convinced me to start learning Linux is the ol’ Text Document.txt of all things. Swear to God, I thought that it would be the automatic updates nuking my unsaved work (again), but here we are…

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    It’s so stupid that they’re making these additions to notepad. There is a need to have a basic text editor on an OS that isn’t going to try to “help” by giving recommendations, automatically backs up files or whatever other shit they’re trying to jam into it.

    They had wordpad and if they wanted to add additional features into that, that’s completely fine. There are use cases for something that does a bit more than a simple text editor like notepad can do.

    My guess is that they tracked that people used notepad more often than wordpad so they removed wordpad. Then started making notepad more like wordpad without considering why people used notepad more frequently.

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      It is batshit crazy. Notepad was never meant to be what they are making it into. Not even WordPad should have AI nonsense. It’s just not for that. It would be like adding advanced spreadsheet functionality to Microsoft Word. It’s not what that’s for, you have Excel for that.

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        Sure but with Wordpad I wouldn’t much care if they spam it up with this kind of crap. It’s something that doesn’t have much use now, because there’s notepad for basic text files and Word or Libre Office for actual word processing. So if someone wanted something to type up some notes that get automatic backups, and have AI recommendations (not that it would be me, but who knows?) just put it on there so we still have a simple text editor that’s installed by default.

        If they’re going to enshittify something at least don’t enshittify the basic tools of the OS.

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    How much shit are people going to endure before realizing Windows isn’t for them any more?

    Dump the damn thing and use Linux. Yes, Linux is friendly, easy to use, you can play most games, you don’t need your proprietary programs because there are Free alternatives that are just as good that might take you a moment to adjust to (don’t cry about how it’s different, that’s Baby Duck Syndrome), and so on.

    And Microsoft facilitates fascism and government spyware and all sorts of evil crap. So does Apple. And Google. Throw away your phone, use Linux on your PCs, free yourself.

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      Crying about it being different isn’t baby duck syndrome; saying it’s better/worse compared to what you’re used to is.

      People just don’t want to spend hundreds of hours re-learning things that already work for them.
      It is objectively easier to stick with something you know than to learn something new, so that’s what most non-technical users do.

      Pretty much everyone in IT should learn linux at some point though.

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        If you are in IT I’d hope you know some version of Unix. Consumers I wouldn’t expect them to know, they just want it to work and don’t care about configurations and how it works.

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      Linux is as messy and more as the apartment where I live (really bad).

      If you want the operating system to make sense, use OpenBSD (no Wine, no Linux emulation, thus only native games) or NetBSD (there is Wine and Linux emulation, but limited) or FreeBSD (generally can do the same as Linux), but all three port graphics drivers from Linux with significant lag, and hardware support is worse in general.

      And Microsoft facilitates fascism

      There’s a lot of Linux in systems that governments and militaries use.

      Throw away your phone,

      Yes, right. Also change job so that an Android device for 2FA weren’t a requirement. And get used that I can’t communicate with someone over TG/WA/VK in transport.

      And still be surveilled, because the information you give about yourself without an Android phone is sufficient, carrying one is a symbolic decapitation of your privacy and dignity, “symbolic” is the word.

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          Something insulted you in my comment or you feel the urge to take sides in things you most likely haven’t compared? Linux is a mess compared to BSDs. Anyone who used them all can confirm this.

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            You mean the entire fucking world where *BSD is basically dead and Linux is fucking everywhere? Yeah… sure, buddy.

            *BSD has always been a poor alternative to Linux because of design decisions, poor hardware support, and a garbage license that allows non-free software to “steal” (take) and use your code irresponsibly. *BSD sucks.

            Someone is just jealous of Linux’s success but is so caught up being a contrarian shitlord that they can’t admit the truth.

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              You mean the entire fucking world where *BSD is basically dead and Linux is fucking everywhere? Yeah… sure, buddy.

              This is not a valid argument and also you are quite ignorant of what’s everywhere and what is dead.

              *BSD has always been a poor alternative to Linux

              The other way around technically, one came before the other and was a more mature system, with ongoing lawsuits however.

              Also SunOS 4 and Ultrix are BSD, if you didn’t know. Commercial high-end OSes before Linux even started. About “poor alternatives”.

              because of design decisions,

              You don’t know what you’re talking about, anything but this argument. BSDs’ design decisions allow them to solve the same problems orders of magnitude cheaper (in human effort) than Linux. That’s how they still survive.

              Under FreeBSD there are GEOM, netgraph, properly working ZFS since long ago, proper separation of base system and packages, the ports system, Linux emulation for legacy software, all orderly and clean. Under Linux the horrible mess starts with Debian netinstall.

              By the way, you don’t even know your own team, Eric S. Raymond of the “cathedral vs bazaar” glory notoriously disagreed with you, despite the comparison being supposed to put Linux on top. His point was that if you allow thousands of monkey developers, they might not do things so well, but they’ll do so much more that it’s justified, and thus Linux wins due to having shittier architecture, but developing faster.

              poor hardware support,

              Go use Windows then, it has almost perfect hardware support.

              and a garbage license that allows non-free software to “steal” (take) and use your code irresponsibly.

              So Google uses GPL code responsibly, right? Microsoft? Apple? Meta?

              This argument is obsolete.

              I dunno where the circus is, but the clowns are already here.

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        I want a clean, advanced, well designed desktop and Im okay with redoing my work flow

        Use Gnome

        Gnome is cool but can it be slightly more Windows?

        Use Cosmic (PopOS)

        I want lots of customization, advanced features, and a traditional windows desktop metaphor

        Use KDE

        I want Windows and don’t really care about customization

        Use Cinnamon

        Dude the Windows 9x look was fucking dope

        Use Mate

        Im installing this on a potato

        Use XFCE

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          This is always so unfair to XFCE. Sure it is low impact on resources but it is also very flexible and customizable. Most people sleep on how good it can be outside of the low resources need.

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          Just try out multiple desktops in a live environment and see what you like before you commit. In fact, I recommend people to use a linux live session for several weeks or months before switching, just to get used to it.

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        Gnome is an opinionated desktop environment and that turns some people off. But it’s bold enough to make some design decisions and have a limited scope. KDE tries to be another Windows alternative.

        Of course, you could go with a tiling window manager but my vote goes to Gnome. I’ve had a very smooth experience on Gnome for the last couple years.

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          Yeah, Gnome is like the Apple of the Linux world. The devs have the same kind of “we know better than you do” mentality towards design. The issue tracker is a lot of “hey the OS won’t let me do [edge-case scenario that an OS should be able to do, but which most users won’t bother with]” followed by the devs going “Gnome isn’t designed to support [edge-case scenario]. Bug report closed.” Like the devs have a very “it’s not a bug; It’s a feature” mentality, and anyone who runs into that bug must be using the OS “wrong”.

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            we know better than you do” mentality towards design

            And I agree with them. I think people should pick whatever desktop environment needs the least amount of customization for their needs. Keep it simple. If Gnome works out of the box, use it. If KDE works out of the box, use it.

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              This is Gnomes biggest advantage to be honest. They have a singular vision of how they want their product to work and they aren’t concerned with edge uses.

              I enjoy elements of so many DEs but I keep coming back to gnome because it’s just so well executed over the others.

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        IMO:

        • want to show off? i3wm with gaps and rofi for menu launcher. Add it some transparency effects too.

        • want the MacOS style? Gnome. Default on a lot of distros.

        • want something stable? XFCE. Install and forget.

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    Thanks god that I’m not using windows for 4 years now, and at least notepad++ exists.

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          vscodium fixes the privacy anyway. It’s always open so startup times are no issue for me.

          I still prefer to keep a stripped down, basic text editor though. Ah well, I’m not on windows so no big deal.

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            vscodium fixes the privacy anyway

            At the cost of some features not working (e.g. Pylance, which is the default Python extension, as well as others by MS).

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              For plain text, either nano on CLI or whatever built in basic text editor comes with LMDE.

              Windows I used notepad, from now on I’ll add ++ :)

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        Those are 2 different use case pieces of software . NP++ is an editor while vscode is an IDE

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        Clearly this is a controversial statement. I’m team “use what’s available and preference tools that get the job done quickly.”

        I work in several different languages. VSCode has TreeSitter and a bevy of slick plug-ins. NP++ does not. I can use VSCode on both Windows and Linux. If I’ve got a desktop environment, I will hands down pick VSCode over NP++ every time.

        Otherwise, let’s be real, NeoVim is king.

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          NP++ was good 20 years ago during a time with much weaker competition and it’s been coasting on that good will ever since

          It’s OK for a text editor (compared to something totally basic like notepad) but other text editors have caught up in every single category

          like you said, VS Code is now the default go to code editor for a lot of people. if you don’t use VS Code, you use vim.

          for non-coding uses, I don’t see the functional difference between NP++ or something basic like Gnome’s text editor

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            Completely agreed. At one point, maybe 12 years ago, I remember trying to learn NP++'s macro system. It was better than whatever we had at the time, but I’m glad I didn’t spend more time than I had to. Just a couple months ago, a coworker was raving about how great NP++ macros are … to do a task handily solved by some light regular expressions and/or column edit mode. Both REs and CEM are far more ubiquitous concepts than some bespoke, domain-specific language for defining repetitive tasks.