• Krauerking@lemy.lol
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    10 hours ago

    You know Trump could have just vetoed the spending bill and then got his shutdown right? Or the Republicans could have not submitted a bill or even voted against with that argument that it was better for Trump to have his way.

    This has just legitimized him further in that when push comes to shove people (Democrats) do agree with giving him what he wants. He’s an unchecked bully.
    This is not logical it’s easy.

    • OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee
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      3 hours ago

      Whoever shuts down the government, loses. Republicans can’t just veto the bill or not pass a budget. But they CAN pass something Democrats don’t like and then blame Democrats for shutting down the government if they filibuster it. And voters WOULD blame Democrats, because they would be the party blocking the bill.

      Run through the logic, after they stop this budget. Trump does whatever he wants while people blame Democrats, and eventually the Democrats cave and pass it anyway after allowing irreperable harm and harming their ability to take back the House in 2026, or they cave by letting Trump whatever he wants indefinitely.

      • ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        2 hours ago

        The fascists will do what they want either way. They only use laws when it is convenient for them to do so.

        What the fascists wanted was to be legitimized by bipartisan support of their bill. They wanted the Democrats to consent in advance. To take the next small step willingly.

        Chuck Schumer has handed the country over to the fascists in exchange for nothing because he serves the same billionaires.

        There wasn’t a sudden realization from Schumer that flipped his opposition on Wednesday to his support on Thursday. That was his obvious cover to try to hide the billionaires he serves. Don’t fall for it.

        Whoever controls the messaging can blame the other party for the shutdown. Democrats don’t bother to even have a narrative let alone control one. They fight in a strictly performative way. So no matter what happens Republicans can always blame Democrats and without an alternative view point pushed people who aren’t politically engaged are more likely to believe Republicans.

        The ten Democrat Senators who voted for the CR do not care about winning. They care about raising their donors’ stock portfolios.