If he liked Putin’s russia so much, he should have moved there.
He was in Luhansk, a region which has democratically chosen to be a part of Russia due in large part to the horrific actions of the Ukrainian regime towards the people of Luhansk.
it was an illegitimate referendum.
Was it? According to who? The people who have been selling artillery shells to drop on the people of Luhansk for over nine years? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Michael Radachovsky, political advisor to the European Commission, noted that there were no violations in terms of voting procedures at the polling stations he visited.
“The elections were well organized in terms of how people were treated, the process itself was very well organized,” he stated.
https://mronline.org/2022/12/02/the-narrative-of-sham-elections/
“Well organized” doesnt mean legitimate. The referendum was organized without the consent of the legitimate government of Ukraine, was rightfully boycotted by Ukrainians, was scoped beyond the occupied areas and included non residents shipped in from russia.
And let’s not forget the polling. Over 94% voter turnout (or an illicit vote) and 98% voting for annexation? You can’t even get 80% of people to vote for “don’t shoot yourself in the face” and we’re supposed to believe the annexation vote was near-unanimous?
The propagandists really should’ve made up a number closer to 60% with 85% turnout, enough that a majority of the population could be said to have voted for annexation, while still being believable.
Exactly
A couped government isn’t legitimate.
a coup, by definition, is “a sudden, violent, and unlawful seizure of power from a government.” Yanukovych was removed after losing the confidence of both the people and his party through legal processes already afforded to the Ukrainian legislature. Enough of his party defected to the opposition to the point where he no longer commanded a majority.
Please educate yourself on the Maidan coup:
https://jacobin.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea https://mronline.org/2022/07/06/anatomy-of-a-coup/
If you respond with contradicting sources, please check first if they’re funded by NED or similar orgs so I don’t have to do that for you. Appreciate!
Then please tell me how a region under genocidal siege from the very state it is internationally recognized to be a part of should legitimately break away and establish its own sovereignty.
That’s a straw man, because in this case they weren’t under genocidal siege by the state it is internationally recognized to be a part of
Ukraine was, and remains, at war with separatist factions fomented by Russia. If Russia didn’t want a war in Donbas, they shouldn’t have started a war there
Russia started a war in 2014?
Whether or not the separatist faction is fomented by a foreign power, what gives Ukraine the right to shell them for nearly a decade on end, make their language and culture illegal, and exclude them from the public sphere? In early 2022 Ukraine was preparing for military action on Donbas, to essentially remove all remaining dissenters.
I think Ukraine, under direction of its NATO puppeteers, has done a great job of fomenting separatism in culturally Russian minorities present in Ukraine all on their own.
It’s called perestroika
How is that relevant? The topic at hand is sovereignty and what the supposed correct way to go about achieving it is, not shitty economic liberalization.
So you support Turkey over the Kurds, right? Given that they had a well-organized Declaration of Independence and autonomy, without the consent of the legitimate government in Turkey.
I don’t know enough about that conflict to form an opinion on it
No one with any sense believes that bullshit any more
Of course someone from pro-genocide instance would say that.
Liar. It was a sham election and everyone knows it.
That’s quite a lot of confidence for an objectively false statement.
Michael Radachovsky, political advisor to the European Commission, noted that there were no violations in terms of voting procedures at the polling stations he visited.
“The elections were well organized in terms of how people were treated, the process itself was very well organized,” he stated.
https://mronline.org/2022/12/02/the-narrative-of-sham-elections/
To be fair, I guess he thought they were gonna move to him!
Moved where? From a Russian point of view this was Russia.
I guess from a Russian point of view he is still alive as well then
That’s the dumbest shit in this thread yet.
There’s too many lemmygrad users here. The ignorance is rubbing off on me
No? What are you talking about.
The comment I answered too inplied that he should have moved to Russia. But from his point of view he was already in Russia.
it was a joke.
From a Russian point of view, Alaska is also theirs.
No? And what does that have to do with the conversation?
he probably should have expected that
ukranian death squads and the spanish inquisition, undefeated in their expectations
I’m sure he knew his life was in danger.
As a reminder, betraying your country to an invader is not typically a charge that meets with a jury trial.
…and ends with a very quick sentence, even in countries where very quick sentences are otherwise frowned upon. Treason just seems to usually be an exception to the rule.
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Oh look. If it isn’t the consequences of your own actions.
The consequence of someone saying their opinion should in no case to be murdered. It is wrong to murder people because they have a different opinion.I did not know he was also a collaborator …
Mr Struk … actively pursued a ‘pro-Russian position’ in the last week by 'communicating with the Russian Federation
Actively supporting an invading force during war isn’t “having a different opinion,” it’s treason.
No disagree from me. I was just triggered by the clickbait title that does not say anything about collaboration.
Oh no… Anyway, the new BMW M3…
Lots of people celebrating this guys murder. Sometimes I really wish reddit didn’t kill their api so you blood thirsty nuts would have stayed there.
Cry tears for a dead nazi lol
Celebrating?
No.
Unsurprised that his traitorous actions would lead to this?
Also no.
I felt sorry for the French girls who had their hair shaved off for dating Nazi officers. We really don’t know why they did it and I doubt it helped the occupiers very much.
Pretty indifferent to this.
Also apparently this happened a year ago I dunno why its being posted now
I agree with your sentiment. People in Ukraine have right to be bloodthirsty, but it’s scary when people in Germany and UK in the comfort of their homes behave like that.
I live about a hundred km from the nearest russian military base. Can I behave like that?
Traitor sounds too soft compared to the word we got for it in Norway, but “traitors of a country” in war rarely rouse much sympathy.
E.g. the majority of Norwegians are against the death penalty, but you would be hard pressed to find many opposing the decision to execute Quisling after the war.
Never collaborate with occupiers. Lots of people in Afghanistan learned that the hard way, too.
Id say that’s a little different.
Yes you should just have supported the exsisting Taliban.
Why are you posting the daily Mail??
What’s this? the consequences of my actions
What’s this? The consequences of my actions
Must have been a bear attack. No need to look into it.
Accidentally jumped out of a window
Sound like a suicide
he had been awfully sad lately
Usually they get yeeted out of windows, good to see they’re changing it up, keeping it fresh
Should check out the podcast “Sad Oligarch” it’s about the rash of Russian oligarchs and such throwing themselves out of windows, and killing their families then themselves.
I recommend it as well. It’s not just people falling out of windows, they use all kinds of methods to get rid of people they don’t like.
That’s the thing, see. A bullet. It is known he was murdered.
Somewhere in the Kremlin someone is thinking that this was entirely without style. So blunt. Barbarous. When a man falls from a window it is … an accident.
Meanwhile, somewhere in Ukraine, someone is thinking “Style be damned, this was a message.”
They will continue to disagree about which method is best regardless of specific situation and intended subtlety until one of them is shot or falls out of a window.
Well …. Bye.
Good.
Gotta wonder if you all would feel this way about random US civilians who supported US wars of aggression being killed.
if a mayor of a town in Afghanistan told everyone he wants the US to invade while bombs are falling on his countrymen? yeah. I’d feel the same way?
A mayor of a town who worked with the enemy of his country, which is currently bombing civilians regularly, is not the same as a “random” citizen who supports their own country. Thats a mind bogglingly stupid comparison.
That’s not exactly a 1:1 comparison, is it? And I say that as someone who personally wouldn’t give a fuck about those nationalists meeting their end at the hands of the victims of such a war.
What is the difference in your eyes?
Sorry to butt in. I’m not the commenter but I see the point
An apt comparison would be a mexican mayor, welcoming USA to invade them
Or a taiwanese one, who wishes the same from China. Etc.
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