The media won’t give me great answers to this question and I think this I trust this community more, thus I want to know from you. Also, I have heard reports that Russia was winning the war, if that’s true, did the west miscalculate the situation by allowing diplomacy to take a backseat and allowing Ukraine to a large plethora of military resources?

PS: I realize there are many casualties on both sides and I am not trying to downplay the suffering, but I am curious as to how it is going for Ukraine. Right now I am hearing ever louder calls of Russia winning, those have existed forever, but they seem to have grown louder now, so I was wondering what you thought about it. Also, I am somewhat concerned of allowing a dictatorship to just erase at it’s convenience a free and democratic country.

  • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
    44·
    10 months ago

    Define “winning”.

    Ukraine is, slowly and painfully, gaining ground, so by that measure, they are winning.

    • Ganesh Venugopal@lemmy.mlOP
      9·
      10 months ago

      Ukraine is, slowly and painfully, gaining ground, so by that measure, they are winning.

      Really? I was hearing the opposite all this while. PS: Slowly and very painfully, fuck, I wish there was an end to this war and we could return to status quo!

      • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
        29·
        10 months ago

        I was hearing the opposite all this while.

        From where? There are multiple, reasonably reputable maps available that show the lines, and regardless of who the map makers support, they have to be accurate because of how easily they can be proven wrong if they make false claims.

        Besides, much like Vietnam, or the many wars in Afghanistan, victory won’t happen on the battlefield, it will happen when the invader finally gets tired of paying the price of war.

          • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
            16·
            10 months ago

            Interesting. I know they’ve historically been close to Russia, I didn’t realise they still had so much support.

          • Waker@lemmy.world
            6·
            10 months ago

            India is absolutely leaning (hard) towards Russia. They probably never bought gas/oil and fertiliser so cheap.

          • Gamma@beehaw.orgEnglish
            1·
            10 months ago

            I watch this channel for daily updates: https://youtube.com/@RFU

            It obviously leans pretty heavily pro-Ukrainian, but it seems to do the daily updates accurately enough from the times I’ve double checked.

          • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
            1·
            10 months ago

            Tankie is to liberals as woke is to conservatives but y’all aren’t ready for that conversation

            • fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works
              2·
              10 months ago

              Tankie seems more targeted then woke. Woke is everything left of Reagan sometimes.

              Tankie is, at it’s most general, anyone supporting authoritarian measures for “left” wing reasons.

                • fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works
                  1·
                  10 months ago

                  Jt does support statist solutions. I mean so do I so yeah he’s not a tankie to me, but for some anarchy is the only acceptable end game.

                  Again it’s not generally a “too left” thing, but “too authoritarian” thing.

      • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
        8·
        10 months ago

        From euronews news bulletins I know Ukraine has crossed the dnipro and cleared a stable bridge head to get more troops to that russian occupied side. Also they said that nuklear reactor the russians occupied, near the front, is in danger again, because it has been cut off from electricity and had to run gasoline generators to cool it.

        This shows ukraine is advancing slowly.

      • wewbull@feddit.ukEnglish
        2·
        10 months ago

        The numbers are so small, it’s not an argument worth having. What is certainly true is that Russia is sending wave upon wave of men to their death against Ukrainian defences. All for very little gain. Russia lost more people in November than any month so far in this conflict, and any month during Afghanistan. The numbers are horrific. Putin has just ordered another round of drafting, and they were scraping the barrel last time.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
      5·
      10 months ago

      Could you point to where Ukraine is actually gaining ground. Last I checked, Russia gained more ground than Ukraine in the past six months.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
          3·
          10 months ago

          If you look at liveuamap which is a pro western source, it’s pretty clearly that Russia is on the offensive all across the front https://liveuamap.com/

          Meanwhile, NYT has a helpful chart showing territorial changes over the summer https://archive.ph/U3BzJ

          Russian army is currently routing Ukrainians in Avdiivka as we speak, and this a large city that had population over 30 thousand before the war. This also happens to be the part of Ukraine’s only fortified line.

          https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/whats-stake-russias-assault-avdiivka-2023-12-01/

          The Russians are dug in, and the conditions are awful. Still, Russia are losing men at horrific rates, higher than at any point upto now.

          That’s weird, because the only actual western source that shows any methodology puts total Russian casualties at 38 thousand, meanwhile even western sources now admit that Ukrainian casualties are now at well over a 100 thousand

          https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng

          Oh and here’s how things are going south of Dnieper https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67565508

          "The entire river crossing is under constant fire. I’ve seen boats with my comrades on board just disappear into the water after being hit, lost forever to the Dnipro river.

          "We must carry everything with us - generators, fuel and food. When you’re setting up a bridgehead you need a lot of everything, but supplies weren’t planned for this area.

          "We thought after we made it there the enemy would flee and then we could calmly transport everything we needed, but it didn’t turn out that way.

          “When we arrived on the [eastern] bank, the enemy were waiting. Russians we managed to capture said their forces were tipped off about our landing so when we got there, they knew exactly where to find us. They threw everything at us - artillery, mortars and flame thrower systems. I thought I’d never get out.”

          Seems like things along the other parts of the front are going about the same https://archive.ph/2023.12.04-165309/https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/12/04/ukraine-counteroffensive-stalled-russia-war-defenses/

          • Seventy percent of troops in one of the brigades leading the counteroffensive, and equipped with the newest Western weapons, entered battle with no combat experience.
          • Ukraine’s setbacks on the battlefield led to rifts with the United States over how best to cut through deep Russian defenses.
          • The commander of U.S. forces in Europe couldn’t get in touch with Ukraine’s top commander for weeks in the early part of the campaign amid tension over the American’s second-guessing of battlefield decisions.
          • Each side blamed the other for mistakes or miscalculations. U.S. military officials concluded that Ukraine had fallen short in basic military tactics, including the use of ground reconnaissance to understand the density of minefields. Ukrainian officials said the Americans didn’t seem to comprehend how attack drones and other technology had transformed the battlefield.
          • In all, Ukraine has retaken only about 200 square miles of territory, at a cost of thousands of dead and wounded and billions in Western military aid in 2023 alone.

          Sounds like Ukraine is doing pretty great there.